I don't think people who are addicted to drugs or alcohol are in the right state of mind to be typed (or type themselves for that matter) with MBTI... It was developed to be used on healthy people...

Welcome to the forum, Krysty2! Is this question pertaining to yourself or someone else? I don't think that alcoholism or drug use is more prevent among type. Is is really pretty individual, but I'm sure MBTI could be useful to some extent in helping to address the issues that might cause these addictions.

I disagree, in these days everyone is addicted to something or other. I think its in the severity of the addiction, a heroin addict who is getting high everyday is clearly NOT interested in something like "personality type" however substance addiction is classified as a disease, and many are in recovery, so are you to say someone who has cancer cannot accuratley know who they are? And who is to judge who is "healthy". Isn't the deeper you get in the mind the more neurosis there is to find? In the words of Carl Jung "Every form of addiction is bad, no matter whether the narcotic be alcohol or morphine or idealism"

 

 

*pelts with pebbles* Welcome to the alley.

I had this HUGE post, that accidentally got deleted <.<

Basically, I think MBTI would only be able to better recognize the reason behind the addiction when it isn't a physical addiction due to the chemicals reacting with your body. If it's a mental addiction, then MBTI could most definitely play some part in it.

To much of a good thing is bad. We all have heard this. Addiction is obsession with no control. The loss of control is always a negative thing.

Maybe i should specify a little bit more:

I meant for example that people who drink much alcohol damage their brain and their personality that much that their "true" personality isn't really recognizable anymore.
I've seen a few great people become total idiots when they became alcoholisms...

The answer to this is yes/no. Every individual has a propensity for addiction, but the reasons and paths for becoming an addict are different between types, I would say.

Another factor to take into account is cultural environment and social interaction. I would argue that how you were raised and what you are raised around has substantially greater influence on addiction than type. Interpersonal relations also likely play an effect. A person of one type who may be less susceptible to a particular addiction might introduce someone of a different type who is more likely to become an addict to the device of addiction. For example (and in no way am I trying to say ENFPs are alcoholics), an INTJ who might have a greater propensity to drink responsibly could incorporate an ENFP into an event where alcohol is freely accessible. The ENFP, who might have a greater propensity to go on a binge drinking spree, might spontaneously combust and go all out and get hammered. On the other hand, an ENFP wishing to console a depressed INTJ might go out to a bar with them for some drinking, but the INTJ could go crazy in their depression and start drinking regularly due to prolonged sorrow, and the ENFP might not recognize this because they're trying to make things better. (Sorry ENFPs, I think I'm painting you badly here).

This is all hypothetical (and I'm really damn tired to it probably won't make cohesive sense), but the point is that MBTI might play some role, but addiction is far more complex and has other more substantiating factors.

Off topic a bit, I am dating an ESFP, and i truly feel like we speak different languages!!!

That's because you kind of do. You are similar but your similarities are purely in the extroversion, fun-loving arena. An ENFP's attempts to go deeper and speak in more abstract terms are often rebuked by an ESFP's general preference for things they can readily understand a use for.

Yes it is kind of disfunctional....LOTS of issues....But i always feel a void, because i cannot share a part of myself with him that is important to me...He just simply does NOT understand it and has desire to try....It is also frustrating because it is disfunctional and he cannot lie to me, my intuition is very strong, and it is like i am constantly battling his lies with my intuition...
Another thing that frustrates me, is he is Mr. Nice guy to everyone and they mamas, and no one knows the ugly side of him but me i feel like..He suffers from addiction problems too soooo there ties in the original post... Just venting!! Ohh and Happy Valentines Day!

Yes it is kind of disfunctional....LOTS of issues....But i always feel a void, because i cannot share a part of myself with him that is important to me...He just simply does NOT understand it and has desire to try....It is also frustrating because it is disfunctional and he cannot lie to me, my intuition is very strong, and it is like i am constantly battling his lies with my intuition...
Another thing that frustrates me, is he is Mr. Nice guy to everyone and they mamas, and no one knows the ugly side of him but me i feel like..He suffers from addiction problems too soooo there ties in the original post... Just venting!! Ohh and Happy Valentines Day!

I do have to ask - what do you like about this guy? I mean he suffers from addiction issues, lies to you, and has no apparent desire to understand you. That doesn't sound altogether healthy, if I might say, so I'm just wondering what's keeping you wanting him? It just sounds like you deserve better from the little bit you've shared.

Also keep in mind that there may be a difference in preference of love languages. This can always have a serious impact on relationships if it isn't taken into account(and it doesn't perfectly line up, which it more oft then not, does)

Well the reason why i am with him, is because he is funny, intelligent, attractive, and loves me....And i love him....OR i am just scared of the unknown, and hold onto something comfortable...I tried to "help" him through his issues, and i ended up just hurting...I mean i see the great guy he is, but i also see the scumbag...I think the issue is everytime i run away he chases HARD, and I give in because i DO want to be with him, the good him...Which he convinces me he is when he finally loses me...I dont know, love is a bitch i guess..I am always faced with contradictions, like is this a test to see if i can get out, or is this real love that i have to endure the bs...I think i know the correct answer to that, just my own fear holding me back.

Ya know what, i always have been in "love" with things that are both my love and my worst enemy all wrapped in one. I myself have a dark side, and have struggled with alcohol..Now mind you my "dark side" is actually pretty light...I have no skeletons in my closet, and i am open with mostly everyone.. My major downfall is I know my potential and i feel like the "demons" are beating me..I know I am here for something great, and i hate feeling like its ME in the way...The older i get the more my brain enhances with ideas and curiousity and wisdom...I have my degree in Psychology and I am doing customer service!!! I tried counceling reaaaal bad ass kids, and I'm from New Jersey soooo they were bad ass lol..and i failed, well there was just too many bad factors in the equation, too much to explain..So bottom line is I have all the skills and tools in my hand but there is one thing i am missing MOTIVATION to begin

Seems like just another abuse story and the girl can't bring herself to leave. Not necessarily saying there is abuse... but, you know... If he isn't good for you, then leave. Saying he loves you, and showing that he loves you through his actions are two totally different things. If he really loves you, it will show by what he doesn't do to you.

oh yes and i just want to add one more thing to the reason i am with him so you understand me better: There is something so pure/real there, I do not fall in love easily, its an energy that does not happen often, a perfect energy connection that is "raw"..I met him when he was 20 and i was 23 and he was not that experienced with women, he was experienced in life however...So I am his first love, and i know he loves me as much as he knows how to...Just that he is pretty fucked up himself so obviously is going to hurt me. I know i have graduated from this at this point, and i must risk the chance of never experiencing that "love" again, but i must realize there is better out there, and i have to risk it...I mean what I am holding onto probably will continually fail anyway..But yea I have dated lots in my life and I am not an unattractive female, i speak to many different men, actually boys, they almost feel like...Maybe i need a real MAN... Well just to add to the shit pile, My bf just found out he has a rare tumor in his chest and it very possibly is cancer, he is going to Sloan Kettering in NYC to have it removed and after that depending on whether it is cancer or not...well you know.. I almost feel guilty..One-because theres a feeling its karma (too much to explain but just take my word for it) two- maybe it has not quite hit me how serious it is, but i just don't care as much as i feel I(me) as a person should in a situation like this --three- i still feel all the resentment from what he has put me through (theres lots of bs that of course i cannot explain all on here, i would be typing forever and i am at work lol) I dont know four- i feel like he maybe just using me now that he is sick....I just don't know, but i know my energy is being wasted on this, i am capable of more ...ugh i am just frustrated

I stick to my original opinion even with your fallow-up. He is bad for you, and you are refusing to let go because of love(?). If that is what he is going through in his life, then he is probably using you at this point, which will make your break up all the harder, because he will tug on you using all kinds of manipulatory ways.