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20 Jan 2010 12:21 PM  

I saw the words Psychic INTJ in another thread and remembered I've been meaning to post this for discussion.

My main points:

  1. anyone here 'psychic' or experience pre-cognition on a regular basis?
  2. What's your explanation?

To expand on my experience (I know I'm not going to explain this well, bear with me):

I have very vivid, solid, non-vague dreams that become reality within 24 hours. These dreams feel different from the normal ones I have. I wake up knowing it was a 'vision' of sorts rather than general dreams. I also have 'visions' or random thoughts pop into my head during waking hours, usually when I'm alone and peaceful. They're about specific people and specific events, rather than vague impressions and i'm just filling in the blanks in retrospect. They're mostly about one person ('target') and some family. Interestingly i've been living 3000km away from these people for a year, so these precognitions exist without having seen or talked to anyone involved prior to these 'dreams' (i.e. not picking up on cues or gathering much information). And it's different from role-playing scenarios in my head and finding one of these scenes plays out as predicted, like INTJs are prone to doing.

Some examples from 2009 that I can remember:

  • Precognition dream about an accident involving a man, alone, being crushed by specific equipment at a specific place. Upon waking I had a bad feeling, was unsettled and it got progessively worse up to a specific time, when I was informed that 'target' was alone when crushed by aforementioned equipment etc etc and was in hospital.
  • Before I went to bed, heard a cat meow. Thought it was weird, as i'm in an apartment block and haven't heard cats since I moved in (10 months ago). Woke up next morning sobbing with an intense feeling that I *had* to go home. Jumped on facebook and saw that the family cat of 19 years was killed the night before. At same time I went to bed.
  • Randomly had intense thoughts of someone I haven't seen in years and not particularly close to. Found out they died that day.
  • Dreamed 'target' had badly injured left leg specifically. I *knew* it would be true, but to confirm my suspicions I sent them a catch-up email asking about how things are. Sure enough, injured, left leg.
  • Being back in my hometown, I went out and *knew* I would run into 'target' at a specific location within the next hour (neither seen them at location before or knew they went there) Sure enough, almost walk into each other.
  • Daily minutia about 'target' and their state of mind pops into my head. These are confirmed often multiple times a day via their social networking updates. 
  • Had an extremely disturbing dream about the end of the world. An extremely bright 'star' shot across the sky and exploded, sending debris down and killing people (there were other details). I was there with friends. People were horrified that everything was ending so soon. Day later, this headline comes out: "Exploding star could wipe out life on earth: Astronomers claim T Pyxidis could go supernova - and is considerably nearer to earth than first thought". I freaked a little.
  • Worse of all, over the last few years I've never been able to shake the feeling that I don't live beyond the age of 30. I don't know why or what my demise is, I just sense it.

Yuk, seriously, reading over these sounds like a nutter! There's a whole bunch of precognition things I haven't bothered to mentioned too.

If things occasionally coincided I'd brush it off, but these dreams are frequent enough and accurate enough to weird me out and wonder if there's more than coincidence (it's not the same as receiving a text message and 'knowing' who it's from before you read it. There a routine/pattern there usually) Just because it's hard to empirically measure 'psychic' ability, doesn't mean it doesn't exists.

Being a scientist, I can't make sense of 'psychic powers'.There's just a lot of false positives (people who believe they are psychic when not) due to a lot of cognitive biases at work.

I'm inclined to the 'if only we know what we know' interpretation, where our brains are taking in more than we are consciously aware of and making more connections than we realised. Just because we can't explicitly state what we know, doesn't mean we don't know. Why such a select group of people and one 'target' and never random people? Therefore, some data must be being used to form these 'dreams'. The turnover between dream and it coming true is too quick to be a self-fulfilling prophecy.

But what about when you don't really have a lot of data? The only info I've been able to access while away is written form via sporadic status updates. 

Why are they all about bad things, like death and accidents and bad emotions? Is there a bigger meaning? Why focus on one person? Is there something extremely terrible coming up in their life which I'll know about ahead of time and can warn them? Just questioning aloud here

Anyone psychic or experience frequent precogition?

Do you believe/disbelieve?

What is your explanation in the affirmative/negative?

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20 Jan 2010 01:18 PM  

Interesting topic Esquilax, Mind boggling stuff,
To answer your questions...

1) Anyone psychic or experience frequent precognition.

occasionally.

2) Do you believe/ disbelieve?

I believe we have access to future events. I don't know why, perhaps it's connected with Love/Will. When you love someone, you are connected in a deeper way. Maybe playing God could work, maybe we if we have the knowledge to know, we could also gain the knowledge to also direct them from their fate, and create a new reality....
I also think our minds are like radio stations, we can tune them to any one station, and depending on our own state of mind, we pick up on either negative precogs or positive. Perhaps the 'bad luck precogs you have been having reflects your more negative mental/ emotional state at the time,  surrounding the person?? Just guessing here...

3)What's your explanation in the affirmitive/negative

We are all connected. All one. It's like we are linked by Spider webs. I love watching birds fly, especially geese, when they move across the sky, they all move together, and when our monkey minds stop, like birds, etc...we feel more connected to the whole.
My latest one was Yesterday, when I read a post on here, I got a feeling I knew what someone was going to say, before they said it. I'd put it down to sheer guess, but I always get a feeling accompanying it.

Do you as INTJ get a feeling accompanying a precog? or is it more a thought/vision?

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20 Jan 2010 09:16 PM  

When you love someone, you are connected in a deeper way.

LOL, yeah 'target' is the object of my affection

I also think our minds are like radio stations

Yes, exactly! I refer to it as 'tuning into someone else's wavelength'

Do you as INTJ get a feeling accompanying a precog? or is it more a thought/vision?

Depends how close I am to the person involved. With the person dying, it was the grandfather of my cousin so I didn't feel anything. I just had a 30 second thought about them and their health. Accidents to people I love are different. If I dream them I wake up feeling shaken and it persists during the day. It feels like an impending sense of doom, nerves or anxiety, like in the moments leading up to giving a public speech. Like when your spidey-senses go "I don't have a good feeling about this".

The other explanation I was looking into was the concept of the Highly Sensitive Person, introduced by Dr Elaine Aron, a genetic trait where HSPs nervous systems are biologically differerent, causing hyper-awareness of their environment (sensitive to sound, smell, vision, touch, taste) and processing their surroundings and information deeper and more thoroughly. There's an excellent description here 

impossible to ‘switch off’ background noise: there's nothing wrong with my hearing, but if I'm watching TV while someone's doing the dishes in another room, I can't hear anymore. No-one else in the room has trouble. As soon as there's background noise, I'm impaired.

tire quickly in noisy environments or after a busy day....need regular quiet time and extra rest.. why find loud and crowded situations, such as nightclubs and big parties unpleasant. Not an ‘antisocial’ behaviour, but rather an instinctive strategy to avoid sensory and emotional overload.

fussy eaters as children. In adulthood they can develop a keen sense of taste, enjoying subtle rather than overpowering flavours: mainly eat plain rice, bread & butter, crackers, pasta, cheese. Can eat stronger flavours in small portions otherwise will feel sick. NO CHILLI!

Overwhelmed by strong odours, developing headache or nausea if exposed too long: found only two perfumes i can wear all day that won't give me splitting headaches or make me sick. Can't stand most perfumes and synthetic scents.

detect subtle differences in fragrance: my housemate's parents visiting from interstate were given a key to our apartment. Not sure when arriving but might be there before I got home. I knew instantly they had arrived before entering our 2nd floor house when I stepped into the stairwell and the air smelled different, like of luggage. They'd been there for a couple of hours too, but the air had changed.

can’t tolerate certain textures: won't mix food textures. All crunchies together, all smooths together. Unexpected change in textures makes me gag. 

lower pain threshold and may be fearful of even the simplest medical procedures: lol, had to numb my foot with ice before removing a splinter. Don't get me started on the experience of a blood test. Shivering at that sensation now.

.... food intolerance, pause before they act, highly intuitive and good at anticipating potential dangers or problems, artistic and creative, inquisitive minds, enjoy new challenges, thrive on learning new things thus they may also get bored quickly and often pursue several different careers over a lifetime, reflect deeply and are introspective, ability to see ‘the big picture’ makes HSPs excellent visionaries and leaders.

 

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21 Jan 2010 01:46 PM  

 I didn't know the HSP had so many difficulties! No chilli eh....

But HSP have a good empathy going on I hear, which can be a blessing and a curse, I wonder what they do to avoid overload?

 

 

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06 Sep 2010 03:36 PM  
My ENFP friend knows when I sit at the computer to chat and he starts writing exactly when I sit down. Seriously, this happened at least 5 times to us and started creeping me out. I'm away for like 2 hours and exactly when I sit down an instant message arrives.
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