O.o I would imagine he had his own personal meaning behind it and was hoping you'd press him for an explanation.

That's not the case, I'm afraid.
He seems to have meant that confidentiality isn't implied.

Hmm....let's see. Trust is a complex idea that essentially means some people are worthy of your confidence and others are not. It's difficult to rationalize on a mental level for an ENFP what exactly makes a person trustworthy or not except with concrete examples of how their behavior was most decidedly untrustworthy....like stealing from a donation bin or pushing one's grandmother into oncoming traffic. However, since most people are not so overt in their underhanded actions, such examples are rare. Indeed, even when the nonverbal warning of a non-trustworthy person sounds, the mere desire to make connections can brush aside any unsettling feelings as irrational and undeserved. And once a connection has been established to an ENFP, it takes that concrete evidence to prove that a person is unworthy of trust. Even moreso if the ENFP is the only target of the behavior.

We believe the best in people....then again, I wouldn't really call it trust either. More it's an acceptance and understanding as well as that desire to connect.

So I suppose it's not that an ENFP is so trusting as to allow anyone to know everything about them....neither is it that an ENFP doesn't believe in trust at all. It's more of a genuine "here I am" stance that accepts the same genuineness from others regardless of their previous actions. This is kind of confusing. Basically you've got a brilliant judge of character that loves everyone and is willing to forgive almost anything done to them if the apology is sincere. We're also a bit too generous with our Ne sometimes in giving people the benefit of the doubt....and can come up with excuses for poor behavior....

Well, you can trust me.
Trust me.


But, not a lot of people do, it seems.
Sometimes I feel like I could scream fire at a funeral, so to speak.
I would stand atop a building and shout to people, asking why they seem to gravitate from me as I do, them.
You know, if more people took the time to talk to me, i imagine some people would gain a loyal friend.
But, c'est la vie.

^_^ I trust in the integrity of the INTJ. Even at their most evil, the INTJ is still true to their own ideal and sense of self.

Sigh.

Aww -hug- Trust takes time.

Most good things do.

I'm uncomfortable calling you schizo to be honest.

I can only speak for me. Trusting humans is difficult for me. Not because I think humans are bad, but I don't know if I am ready to expose my vulnerabilities.

Him telling you that probably means that at one point in his life he was hurt by us humans pretty badly. I don't know if thats the case for him, but I think for the majority that is what it stems from.

Schizo, do you initiate conversation with people, or wait for them to initiate conversation with you? The reason I ask is because I think you separate yourself from society. Even if its subconscious or a low-order operation. I admire your intelligence though.

In addition to my previous comment. I know with me, some people I instinctively know I can trust after few interactions. Other people I know can never be trusted. Maybe it just depends on your perception and signals received from that person. I know pretty quickly either way.

In agreement with Alysaria. I think it was baited question. I agree that he wanted you to press it further.

Haha, it's not all that. It's more along the lines of, he just doesn't know what information to classify as secret, since he, personally has no secrets?
This is a little frustrating to me.
I'm not sure if I initiate conversation. I don't really like people, generally. At least, not the people in this city. If I could escape somewhere, to an island, by myself, I would.
And he knows it.

I rather am a "separate" being... I don't know where I fit anywhere, really. I tell you, my computer is my soul-mate. Unless someone proves me wrong.

The thing is, schiz is that ENFPs *do* that.... We make random statements about our thoughts or feelings in the hopes that the person we're addressing will question what we mean. I've not only done it, but I've been subjected to it by another ENFP. >.> Sometimes it's a whim....other times there's something serious we *REALLY* want to talk about, but we talk around it and pester you endlessly with inane comments until you finally ask what's on our mind. >< It made me want to try harder to get to the point, but I know I'll still be vague.

So unheard of.
I would love to sit and listen to, give my opinion on, and consider others' problems. Then again, usually the problems people seem to have are stupid... but who am I to judge?
I've always thought I'd make a good friend. I don't understand why so many people seem to reject me, or whatever it is that breaks any chance of potential affiliation.
-shakes head- You never know. Most people think I'm rude/arrogant or something, when I'm probably the nicest person they've met, really. Any friends I've made have been by haphazard coincidence or sitting in this chair for 18 hours a day.

I think everyone has things they keep to themselves. I guess I don't fully understand the question.

Its not my intention to pry with my lines of questions. Humans fascinate me. Learning things about other people helps me learn things about myself.

Haha, how about the parrot? More of a soulmate maybe than your computer? I can't tell you how awesome I think it would be to have my own island. It would be right next to Gilligans. We'd have Lu-wows, me and Mary-Ann. Oh wait, that islands already a half hour away in Universal City. What ever happened to the Gilligans Island re-runs. That was a classic.

Disclaimer to all reading: I view the world through a prism that is much different than the "accepted" truths. Please don't be mad if I say something that offends you. I'm not trying to say what I believe supersedes what other people believe.

Sorry, I had to throw that out there. People get defensive on these sort of topics. OK, you're a "separate" being. Do you think that humans are still pack animals? I think maybe we have evolved because the pack isn't as necessary for human survival as it once was. But I do think the internal mechanisms are still present. Still part of human nature. "Reading" people to me, still seems a throwback to this. Much like most the communication in a pack of dogs is non-verbal.

To elaborate further, from my view, I don't know if its possible to be truly separate. I believe that consciousness is primary to matter, and that they are different entities. I'm as much a part of that rock, tree, bird outside as they are a part of me. I think if our interconnections were realized perceptions might materialize that were previously unknown, or blocked. Since we're trained from birth to view things a certain way, it seems like we close those connections. We shut down the other 90% of our brain since it isn't needed for the environment we created.

You seem to fit in here. . I enjoy philosophical discussion so please add.

Check out this article if you want. Its a tough read, but I enjoyed it. The complex vocabulary alone will make you smarter. lol. "Is Consciousness Primary" by, Michel Bitbol


Sean

Well, sir, I've always known a personal truth to be that the moment I love someone, I shall be changed.
Furthermore, if that someone loves me back, I'm not even sure what I'll do.
I guess I haven't gotten that far yet.
But I spend every hour of my day with my brain procession in motion.

He told me I think too much.

Please, no sir. I'm only 26.

You'll find someone that makes you happy. Just be you.

Lol, thinking is a good thing.

Then don't ma'am me. Also, I'm in no rush, heh.

Sorry to get off of your topic. Your statements were intriguing to me.

I'll graciously bow out of the conversation now.

Hey, no need to... you are interesting, yourself. Is not the whole point of a forum to discuss?
I will you to return.