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16 Aug 2011 11:17 AM  

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17 Aug 2011 11:35 AM  
LOL! Awesome....and so true. Mr. Darcy is such an INTJ XD
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17 Aug 2011 11:40 AM  
This is great! Thanks, Nadette for posting!
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18 Aug 2011 10:03 AM  
You are welcome Personally, I find this beyond hilarious. Even my very INTJ brother let a smirk slip as he was reading frame #7. He also left the window open rather than closing it, though it was very clear that he did not want me to know that he was amused by what I was showing him. (lol)
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20 Aug 2011 01:09 PM  
this is funny!
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21 Aug 2011 01:48 AM  

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I object to this. It only gives an accurate ENFP view of the story. It in no way, shape or form gives an accurate ( thus INTJ Onion Head Emoticons 124) representation the true events.

 

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21 Aug 2011 05:47 AM  
Stripes, how does the INTJ version go?
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21 Aug 2011 12:03 PM  

Well to start with the first image

"It is a truth universally acknowledged that a single man in possession of a good fortune must be in want of a wife. However little known the feelings or views of such a man may be on his first entering a neighbourhood, this truth is so well fixed in the minds of the surrounding families, that he is considered the rightful property of some one or other of their daughters"

Here Jane Austen clearly indicates that men like Mr. Darcy are viewed as property, and not as Divas. The ones who he dismiss, including Elizabeth, are merely brought down to earth due to their own self-righteous and self-serving arrogance. And in the process vilify men like him for protecting themselves from harm.

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21 Aug 2011 02:34 PM  
Elizabeth wasn't like everyone else though. She did not view Darcy as property, but properly identified that his behavior qualified as diva-like. Elizabeth was great because, unlike the rest of the society she lived in, she expected marriage to be based on love and looked at character rather than fortune. Yeah, everyone else was all hung up on the fact that Mr. Darcy was a rich, eligible bachelor (including Mr. Darcy!!!!), but Elizabeth maintained her dignity and values and in the process changed Mr. Darcy. AWWW!!!!
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22 Aug 2011 04:51 AM  

Hey hey hey , stick to the topic at hand, I was talking about the first image and you‘re already done with the story. Don’t be a party pooper. And Diva like does not = Diva

 

Regarding the second image; the stare wasn’t all mystical and mysteriousOnion Head Emoticons 43, it was more a

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22 Aug 2011 11:17 AM  
I thought he was just irked that he liked her and couldn't figure out why. He was trying to talk himself out of it by observing her faults....hence his *brilliant* proposal... ><
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23 Aug 2011 01:36 AM  

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He hasn’t proposed yet, that happens at the 4th image I was at the  2nd. You are making judgments based on information and events that are still to occur. Don’t worry this true version also has a happy ending.

Regarding the 3rd image. His intuition tells him that there is more to this dork….uhmmm I mean individual. So he decides to play the formal social game and actually tries to have a civil conversation with her, something he does not have a lot of experience in  . And seeing as she is so uppity about her self and notElizabeth was great because, unlike the rest of the society she lived in, she expected marriage to be based on love and looked at character rather than fortune.” she doesn’t actually try to get to know him but judgesOnion Head Emoticons 93 him on his uncomfortable and social awkward impressions.

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23 Aug 2011 07:55 AM  
she doesn’t actually try to get to know him but judges him on his uncomfortable and social awkward impressions.


I disagree here, Stripes. Elizabeth Bennett doesn't judge him based upon his uncomfortable and social awkward impressions, but based upon the fact that he shows himself an asshat by blatantly calling her "...tolerable; but not handsome enough to tempt me ." Then, given this base insult, coupled with his prejudices against her for her "inferiority of birth," and the information she is presented later by the shiny (but sleazy) Mr. Wickham, she can't help but misjudge him. Nevertheless, it is his insult against her self that starts her ill-feelings towards him, not his social abilities, technically.
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24 Aug 2011 01:08 AM  

And as I said, it was something that he did not have experience in, as well as the fact during that time period she was in the position of having "inferiority of birth" just as he was with those higher up the social ladder. And if you know anything of the British class sytem then it makes sence. And she might have been only tolrable in his eyes but he saw more than her phisical apperance and saw her for who she was.

Regarding the 4th image: He confirmed his intuition and decided to take things forward. He knew that for some reason he loved this dork ..... yet did knot know why. This way he could give her the happy ever after without the whole emotional rollercoster and also raise her and her family's social standing. So a win win for everybody.

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24 Aug 2011 03:48 AM  
I am sorry i have to break the tension mood, but i just found this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pride_and_Prejudice_and_Zombies

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24 Aug 2011 08:12 AM  

Pride and Prejudice and Zombies is pretty good. The writing style is a little atrocious at times, but it's still pretty funny!

And as I said, it was something that he did not have experience in, as well as the fact during that time period she was in the position of having "inferiority of birth" just as he was with those higher up the social ladder. And if you know anything of the British class sytem then it makes sence. And she might have been only tolrable in his eyes but he saw more than her phisical apperance and saw her for who she was.



Yes, but that was the point. The entire novel was one of Austen's attempts to criticize how limiting and problematic the British class structure was. Yes, society prompted him to only focus on her beauty originally, but it doesn't mean that Mr. Darcy wasn't a fool by attempting to proclaim himself somehow better than society (by trying as often as possible to exclude himself from it), while still following it in his internal judgements of others. It was his prejudice, based upon his haughty superiority complex which prompted him to originally slight her. While it was Elizabeth Bennett's pride that found difficulty in giving Mr. Darcy the benefit of the doubt. Did Mr. Darcy have troubles understanding social protocol? Absolutely, but as Elizabeth Bennett pointed out later, by observing how there were plenty girls to dance with at the first Neatherfield ball, that he did not even attempt to try to interact with anyone else because he danced with no one.  He brought the judgment down upon himself by failing entirely to attempt to condenscend himself to interact with anyone other than his party.  So, I don't think it is social skills that was the problem, but his lack of effort at trying that caused judgment. 

It wasn't that Mr. Darcy didn't have the opportunity to socialize and improve his social mannerisms, but that he didn't try because he, frankly, didn't see a need or desire to. Why would a fairly attractive man who makes 10,000 pounds a year need to? It was only when confronted with the inner turmoil over his own prejudices/societal misconceptions and his desires did he attempt to improve himself and his mannerisms.
 

 

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24 Aug 2011 10:01 AM  
And I never said he was faultless. What I was trying to do is give another side of the story of the pictures. Not the novel. Just to make clear I did this, like the pictures, in good humour but it seems it got lost somewhere. So I will stop.
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24 Aug 2011 02:28 PM  

Oh, I'm not upset or arguing.  I just love Pride and Prejudice and discussing it.  It's one of my favorite books - if not my favorite book.  In fact one of my cats is named Elizabeth Bennett.  I mean, what other name suits an extroverted, spunky cat who is best friends with a shy, quiet cat named Charlotte? 

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24 Aug 2011 04:03 PM  
^_^ It's my favorite book too Purple. I have the 4 hour AMC movie too....Colin Firth is the best Mr Darcy and I will defy anyone to say otherwise!

>.> Actually, a lot of modern romance novels are heavily influenced by Jane Austen. I have one that's practically the same characters and takes very heavily from the story....but the guy (who is a Duke)....kind of has a valid reason to take the woman into dislike right away. She peers over a banister to get a better look at him and spills lemonade in his eye >< He was also lead to believe he was attending an intellectual gathering, but found it was an engagement party with a bunch of youngin's. Poor guy.

Back to the point, the tangent there is kind of how I perceive Mr Darcy to have felt about that initial party. Bingly, being a pleasant, sociable (ESFJ?) gentleman was all too happy to join in the festivities of his neighbors....he may not have outright lied to Mr Darcy, but I'm sure he made the other attendees of the party sound much more agreeable. Darcy, once there, was bound by politeness not to just leave, but feeling completely duped and sharing no commonality with anyone but Bingly and his sisters, he opted to simply not have any fun whatsoever. I would imagine that he might have approached the event in a more favorable frame of mind if he knew what to expect and steeled himself for it. Then again, he might just as well have shut down to depress the pretenses of matchmakers like Mrs Bennett.... Idiocy and impertinence do have the effect of making INTJs get a little rude....some more than others.

I just think about the INTJs I know. The ones in their 20s would probably be more likely to be blunt and rude if approached by a foolish person trying not too subtly to be their friend for selfish reasons. The more mature ones would ice up and give a particularly foreboding glare before ceasing to acknowledge that person. And some of the more social ones might force a pleasant smile, say something suitable but terse and move on - polite dismissal.
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