VisionaryMan259  MBTI: Age/Sex: Relationship: IM: Posts:12

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| 27 Oct 2011 09:33 PM |
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25 yr old INTJ looking for ENFP. Distance is not an issue I think If its a match, Theres allways a way to fix a problem. Distance is just one. We can find a way or make one. But it would be nice if your in the same state, preferably. |
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alysaria  MBTI: ENFP Age/Sex: Relationship: IM: Empress of Random Founding Member
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| 28 Oct 2011 11:49 AM |
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You may want to add some additional qualifiers, man.  ENFPs are not interchangeable....and basing an entire relationship on one factor may not end well. How about putting down some of your hobbies....likes/dislikes....a more refined self-description to give the ladies a better idea of who you are beyond "some 25 year old INTJ guy in Florida." Also....maybe try to start things out with online communication and friendship. You appear to want to rush something serious, which seems a little desperate, and desperation is not attractive. You're young. There's no huge rush to settle down....and no reason to panic that you won't be able to find someone without begging. O.O |
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VisionaryMan259  MBTI: Age/Sex: Relationship: IM: Posts:12

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| 28 Oct 2011 12:44 PM |
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Hello Alysaria, I'll be more than happy to answer any questions any ENFP that is interested might have and of course that would initiate the "online communication and friendship" phase. I just wanted to add that something regarding your quote which read "You appear to want to rush something serious, which seems a little desperate, and desperation is not attractive." Is not the case. Knowing what one wants, and being Cut-to-the-chase without beating the bush doesnt mean one is desperate and begging. It just means just means I know what I want. I dont know how to put this more politely but your perception of me being desperate and begging , is wrong, and not the case. As far as communication and friendship, Im more than happy to communicate and make friends, Obviously. and the person Just being ENFP isn't the only qualifier for me. Obviously. If you guys have any questions feel free to ask away. What would you like to know?
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alysaria  MBTI: ENFP Age/Sex: Relationship: IM: Empress of Random Founding Member
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| 28 Oct 2011 12:59 PM |
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I didn't say you *were*, but it's very easy to come across that way, which is why I said *seems*. It's very odd to approach a lady in such a manner that eschews courtship and goes right for the jugular. It's more like a business transaction than an appeal for romantic engagement. Perhaps some ladies appreciate such forthrightness and certainty, but it's a bit foreign and strange to creatures of spontaneity and romance. There's nothing wrong with wanting to settle down and have a happy relationship with someone, I'm just concerned that your approach is more likely to get quirked eyebrows and headtilts all the way to the shoulder more than intrigued curiosity. Which brings me back to your age. 25 is a perfectly fine age to settle down, but it's also a perfectly fine age to stay single and establish yourself fully. If you're already fully established and have nothing left but a woman-shaped space to fill....ok then.  Good luck...and maybe say a little bit about yourself without being prompted. >.> You don't have to tell your life story, but give the ladies a little hint as to who you are. |
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VisionaryMan259  MBTI: Age/Sex: Relationship: IM: Posts:12

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| 28 Oct 2011 01:51 PM |
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It's very odd to approach a lady in such a manner that eschews courtship and goes right for the jugular.It's more like a business transaction than an appeal for romantic engagement. LOOL!! Am I too much for you? LOL. Don't mean to scare you away... LOL and yes I guess business does that to you. Im in business glad you caught up to that. Perhaps some ladies appreciate such forthrightness and certainty, but it's a bit foreign and strange to creatures of spontaneity and romance. Yea I know there is out there. Once the girl warms up to me she'll be fine. Yea Indeed, its foreign and peculiar to creatures of spontaneity and romance, Were only only 1% of the population so they say.. We're allways going to be peculiar and interesting. There's nothing wrong with wanting to settle down and have a happy relationship with someone, I'm just concerned that your approach is more likely to get quirked eyebrows and headtilts all the way to the shoulder more than intrigued curiosity. We'll had I gotten too caught up in my approach and gotten so perfectionist about it... I would have probably never made this thread... I would have been caught up so much in Analysis Paralisis that I would have never made the post. Think about it, Thats a mark of a balanced mature and well developed INTJ, One that takes action and doesnt get caught up in analysis paralisis. I mean if your the one looking, I can see how your opinion above can be your obstacle to finding a great INTJ if your interested in one. If you havent found one allready. Which brings me back to your age. That sounds condescending.. If it was intended that way, Please save it. lol. 25 is a perfectly fine age to settle down, but it's also a perfectly fine age to stay single and establish yourself fully. If you're already fully established and have nothing left but a woman-shaped space to fill....ok then. I dont think Age is the determining factor that would indicate the right time to settle down, but simply a decision to be made backed by reasons why you would want to Settle. I mean, At least I see it that way,There would have to be a purpose or a reason why I'd decide to settle. Otherwise why settle?  . With that said, Im fully Independant, Mature, Well rounded INTJ. Commited to what I do, |
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VisionaryMan259  MBTI: Age/Sex: Relationship: IM: Posts:12

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| 28 Oct 2011 02:06 PM |
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Anyways would be fun to meet an ENFP and see what all the fuss is about of INTJ/ENFP relationships and intercommunication . Im open for friendships and getting to know . I got AIM, and other messangers. etc If anyone is curious what my AIM username is its GrandVenturer.
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alysaria  MBTI: ENFP Age/Sex: Relationship: IM: Empress of Random Founding Member
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| 28 Oct 2011 02:55 PM |
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No age is not the determining factor, and I wasn't trying to be condescending. XD I just have noticed that (INTJs especially) who marry young sometimes don't establish themselves the way they would have liked....and it can make them very unhappy in the long run. It's more about the establishing than the age...but age definitely plays a part in the time available to have been established. If that makes any sense. For example: I know an INTJ who married at 19 (which is an eon younger than 25 in INTJ years, but bear with me for the sake of the example lol). He married an INFJ who was a year older. The INFJ became the dominant personality of the household and the INTJ was a trailing spouse for the INFJ's schooling and eventual career. Certainly there were other things at play, but the major issue was the INTJ did not have the success or control he needed to feel fulfilled. So he sought those in other women. It's possible that his personality was flawed inherently, but I doubt jumping directly into marriage without having the opportunity to establish himself helped.  And now I've gotten you to share some of yourself, which was my evil plan...bwahahahaha! |
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PurpleGiraffe  MBTI: INTJ Age/Sex: 28/F Relationship: Jirafa sola IM:
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| 28 Oct 2011 02:59 PM |
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We'll had I gotten too caught up in my approach and gotten so perfectionist about it... I would have probably never made this thread... I would have been caught up so much in Analysis Paralisis that I would have never made the post. Think about it, Thats a mark of a balanced mature and well developed INTJ, One that takes action and doesnt get caught up in analysis paralisis. I mean if your the one looking, I can see how your opinion above can be your obstacle to finding a great INTJ if your interested in one. If you havent found one allready.
Personally, I think the benchmark of a mature INTJ is knowing that he/she is not mature. There are so many things (events, information, other perspectives) a single individual can't possibly know about the world to ever truly call themselves mature. I wish you well in your search, but you might want to rethink your approach because you don't appear to be winning points with the ENFPs, in my guesstimation (but I can be wrong.) That analysis is, of course, just my personal criterion for the assessment of maturity. Keirsey postulates that the benchmark of a mature INTJ is the developed use of strategy into human interactions, so even at that rate you might want to consider rethinking a few things and listening to Alysaria's advice. There are a lot of INTJs on the internet, so make yourself stick out, in a good way to some INTJ-seeking ENFP. 
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VisionaryMan259  MBTI: Age/Sex: Relationship: IM: Posts:12

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| 28 Oct 2011 03:44 PM |
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And now I've gotten you to share some of yourself, which was my evil plan...bwahahahaha! Sure it was... lol. It was mine. |
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Nadette  MBTI: ENFP Age/Sex: 2x/F Relationship: IM:
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| 28 Oct 2011 10:59 PM |
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Um, I think that I like cut-to-the-chasedness. That said, I was a little turned off by the initial post... The whole online-romance thing is just so weird to begin with. It seems that the vast majority of guys looking for romance online are weird, sick, or sad. I guess I agree that you need something that distinguishes you from that crowd. I'm not sure what though. In any case, good luck with the ENFP hunt! |
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caprice  MBTI: eNfP Age/Sex: F Relationship: IM:
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| 29 Oct 2011 12:12 AM |
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Well, I don't think there is anything wrong with seeking a relationship online. I would take the very helpful advice given to you though. |
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VisionaryMan259  MBTI: Age/Sex: Relationship: IM: Posts:12

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| 29 Oct 2011 09:04 AM |
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Ladies Ladies... Its very simple... Im looking for an ENFP (girl) to get to know... It would be very nice if she was near Florida, because if things are nice thru online communication or whatever it is, then at least knowing we can see eachother in person would be nice and we can all agree that a good relationship is better in person than over all this online stuff. If your an ENFP looking for an INTJ then your free to message me directly and introduce yourself too, and if you want to learn more about me then direct yourself at me or message . Simple... But im not going to be divulging alot more information about me on this public forum, im INTJ, I have a private lifestyle, im Independant. I mean if you really want to get to know me, Then you know what to do. If your not looking to get to know someone new, where ever it may lead ... then move on... I dont want to hear no more whining... Theres no reason to complicate the simple. haha.. I thought ENFPs were fun? wheres the Fun and lighthearted, spontaneous ENFPs? Thats the type im interesting in talking to.
Oh and obviously I dont need to post here to talk to ENFPs. But isnt this what this sub-forum is about? "Meet the ENFP of your Dreams?"... to be more DIRECT about things? Obviously it is. |
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VisionaryMan259  MBTI: Age/Sex: Relationship: IM: Posts:12

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| 29 Oct 2011 09:31 AM |
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I mean, so if some of you ENFPs are like that all picky and judgemental, Then your probably not the type of ENFP i want to get to know more. I've known several ENFPs and the ones ive met are definitely not like that... Just giving you guys a pointer, dont expect an INTJ to approach you like an ENFP would, In a very open manner, Thats just not how it works. Thats what makes our types pretty diferent |
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alysaria  MBTI: ENFP Age/Sex: Relationship: IM: Empress of Random Founding Member
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| 29 Oct 2011 09:40 AM |
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I am an unknown person on a public venue. I have a box with something unknown in it. It could be anything. How do I go about making someone want to open the box? If I walk up to a random person on the street and shove it into their face and yell "OPEN IT!"...they will probably walk away very very quickly. If I sit in a corner, petting the box and talking loudly about how it's got just what anyone could possibly want inside of it....people will probably move to the other side of the street and give me lots and lots of space. There is no legitimacy in that kind of solicitation. You get people curious about the box by setting up a table, decorating it just enough to attract attention (you don't want to outright lie about what's in the box, whether by word or by assumption of how it's arrayed), and piquing interest through calling out to passersby. I might not get every person on the street to come see what's in the box, but I'd get more than I would the other two ways. You are the box. No one is going to be curious if you sit in the corner telling everyone how awesome you are if they'd just come talk to you privately....at least probably not anyone you'd be interested in. We're not looking for your life story or deep, personal details about you. But put some glitter on the box and start to lift the lid a little to pique some curiosity. |
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alysaria  MBTI: ENFP Age/Sex: Relationship: IM: Empress of Random Founding Member
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| 29 Oct 2011 09:42 AM |
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And by "glitter" I don't mean "act like an ENFP" >< You're completely missing the point if you think that's what I'm telling you to do. |
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VisionaryMan259  MBTI: Age/Sex: Relationship: IM: Posts:12

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VisionaryMan259  MBTI: Age/Sex: Relationship: IM: Posts:12

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| 29 Oct 2011 10:30 AM |
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The problem is you have a preconcieved idea of how the box should act Alysaria. Have fun.. |
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alysaria  MBTI: ENFP Age/Sex: Relationship: IM: Empress of Random Founding Member
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| 29 Oct 2011 10:43 AM |
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The box is a box.  And you are getting defensive instead of taking the advice for what it's worth. I'm not telling you "THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO" My point is you're not trying to sell something on craigslist. |
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VisionaryMan259  MBTI: Age/Sex: Relationship: IM: Posts:12

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| 29 Oct 2011 11:13 AM |
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Posted By alysaria on 29 Oct 2011 09:43 AM
The box is a box. And you are getting defensive instead of taking the advice for what it's worth. I'm not telling you "THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO"
My point is you're not trying to sell something on craigslist.
So if the box is still a box in your opinion, then why are you still here? Whats your persistence? I don't want the advice. I want to be myself... If you don't like it, Im not for you.. (that is if you were looking... ) and if your not looking then you should practice minding your business. I don't have anymore polite way of saying it Seriously.. My point is you have a preconcieved idea of how things should work, and you get frustrated if it doesnt work it doesnt work that way. INTJs arn't conventional. We are unconventional. We dont follow the norms or status quo. I mean if this is something you don't like , maybe you should leave it here. We INTJs dont really need advice, we can find our own way thru life and are perfectly fine and successful at it and Independant. As cruel as the following might sound ... If anything the people who need INTJs are ENFPs.. You know all those dreams ENFPs have? That they would love to achieve? but in thier hearts they are pretty disillusioned and believe that they might never achieve it? Well with the help of a caring loving INTJ that decides to take an ENFP along side all those dreams are not only possible but a piece of cake thanks to the INTJs structuring , diligence and genius. I have alot to offer if you still think a box is still a box then I can clearly see you havent done much reading up to do in regards to what INTJs are and what they can do and cannot do, and how they would be an excelent compliment to an ENFP. Otherwise having you just read the letters INTJ that would have lit a fire in you to want to know more. If you think that the box is still a box then I take it you havent studied the subject of INTJ/ENFP intercommuncation and relationships much, but thats ok I dont expect you to. The point is the problem is not me. and Im writing all of this not just for you , but for all others to see, and on behalf of other INTJs. So that maybe you can understand us a bit better.. |
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Load  MBTI: INFJ Age/Sex: 1976 Male Relationship: Single IM: Posts:50

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| 29 Oct 2011 02:45 PM |
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i appreciate a lot of works and thoughts put into it, good luck in your search. |
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