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caprice  MBTI: eNfP Age/Sex: F Relationship: IM:
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| 12 Dec 2010 02:10 AM |
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So apparently you all are not that into music, or at least writing about it. What about books?? Some of my favorites: A Confederacy of Dunces. War and Peace (Tolstoy is listed as an ENFP by some). Love in the Time of Cholera. Most anything by Louise Erdrich.
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Stripes  MBTI: intj Age/Sex: M Relationship: IM:
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| 12 Dec 2010 03:39 AM |
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Tsung Tsu- Art of war, Musashi Miyamoto-5 Rings, Machiavelli- The Prince,and other works, A container load of How To guides, Alexander Dumas- The Count of Monte Cristo, J.J.R Tolkien - The Lord of the Rings,............ wow I just realised that I am the "life" of the party.
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JustinRWatson  MBTI: ENFP (7w8) - "The ultimate Nutter" Age/Sex: Relationship: IM:
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| 12 Dec 2010 03:03 PM |
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So apparently you all are not that into music, or at least writing about it WOAH WOAH WOAH!!! CAPRICE!!! JUST HOLD ON THERE ONE MINUTE!! I am much less of a book person.. Music is one of my major passions.. Is there a thread about this is there?? LINKS!! |
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caprice  MBTI: eNfP Age/Sex: F Relationship: IM:
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| 12 Dec 2010 04:21 PM |
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I love both!! How do other ENFPs feel about books?
On my shelves you will find MANY character driven novels, poetry, travel books (especially off the beaten path types) history books, books about herbs, meditation, social theory, psychology. Not big on the how to books (I'll just wing it thank you). |
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JustinRWatson  MBTI: ENFP (7w8) - "The ultimate Nutter" Age/Sex: Relationship: IM:
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| 12 Dec 2010 04:25 PM |
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I like reading biographies.. Books on psychology are also good (but that is my degree focus, so I suppose that is just a given).. Music books.. Sociological theory is very interesting.. I like reading information on old theories regarding psychoanalysis. It is interesting to note what some of the earlier theorists thought.. Old sociological theory is interesting as well.. Theological books can be somewhat interesting from time to time.. Seeing the different views on what people think about the spiritual world and how it is related to the physical world can be interesting.. I do read a little..  |
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alysaria  MBTI: ENFP Age/Sex: Relationship: IM: Empress of Random Founding Member
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| 12 Dec 2010 07:30 PM |
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I have sooooooooooooooooooooooo many romance novels. O.O So many. The shelf in my closet has 2 rows, the 6 ft tall bookshelf in my room is full....and they're stacked on top of each other and in front of the stacks. I have a bunch on my floor....and I just keep buying more. >< I especially like Georgette Heyer. She has these exceptional regency romance novels with intriguing characters, witty dialogue, and clever plotlines. I know she also wrote some historical fiction and mystery novels....but....she has such a wide variety of types in her books. Moreso than modern romance writers, who have the same male and female archetypes for every story. Even if her characters are the same archetype, they are unique enough that I don't wonder if I haven't already read this book before. What's particularly interesting to me is that she actually uses ENFP and ESFP heroes.....which are vastly different than the icy, determined INTJ stereotype of most romances. Playful, understanding and perplexing as crap to her poor T female counterparts.  I have a habit of trying to type fictional characters - it's much easier, since they're thoughts, feelings and motivations are all laid out for you. |
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Nadette  MBTI: ENFP Age/Sex: 2x/F Relationship: IM:
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| 13 Dec 2010 04:57 PM |
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I like books that ultimately tell me something about humanity. I tend to get that from a lot of different types of books though. Historical fiction has always been a favorite. Lately I've been reading classic feminist literature as this is something that currently interests me. "Slaughterhouse Five" and "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest" both changed my life (well, I mean, you know...) Stephen Crane is my favorite poet. I tend to read in spurts of what currently interests me. When I was a kid I borrowed every book on whales from the library repeatedly. I also went through different phases where a different part of history constituted most of my reading interests. (Medieval, American Revolution, WWII, French Revolution all had turns. I'm currently into WWI.) I don't always type fictional characters (especially as I haven't known about MBIT very long). But, I have convinced myself that the following are ENFP: Allen Ginsburg, Emma (from the novel by Jane Austen), Kurt Cobain. |
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PurpleGiraffe  MBTI: INTJ Age/Sex: 28/F Relationship: Jirafa sola IM:
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| 13 Dec 2010 06:00 PM |
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I can definitely see Emma from Jane Austen's Emma as an ENFP. Mr. Darcy from Pride and Prejudice is completely an INTJ and I'm not so convinced that Elizabeth Bennett might not border on the same type, but my assessment could have been based upon a faulty assumptions because I WANT her to be an INTJ.  She's probably more of an I/ENFJ actually if I had to guess. I'm generally a big fan of fiction and also a big fan of history books. Favorite books: Animal Farm, Slaughterhouse Five, 1984, Brave New World, anything by John Steinbeck or Jane Austen, and I have a growing collection of comic trade paperbacks/graffic novels. |
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JustinRWatson  MBTI: ENFP (7w8) - "The ultimate Nutter" Age/Sex: Relationship: IM:
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| 13 Dec 2010 11:32 PM |
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I can definitely see Emma from Jane Austen's Emma as an ENFP

AHHHHH!!!! NO WAY!!! She is way too naive (and forgive me for saying it) "people incompetent", to be ENFP.. She may be sociable, but she isn't people smart.. ENFPs understand people more than that.. For starters, she can't manipulate people (even when she tried).. Matchmaking is a secret speciality for the ENFP.. .. Emma from Jane Austen doesn't seem to be Intuitive at all -- with all the socially awkward mistakes she's made.. lol .. It just goes to show how little Ne she actually has..
Sorry Purplegiraffe.. I read the book EMMA, and found myself disappointed (and sometimes frustrated -- pulling my hair out, etc.) in the main character quite often -- as she could not seem to connect the dots with the way people thought, felt and the ways their relationships effected each other.. She was also not very self aware.. The main character did everything WRONG!! Not a reflection of the intuitive ENFP-type at all.. So I just had to ramble on about it.. lol |
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BirdsallSa  MBTI: ENFP (7 w/9's) (Technically incorrect, I know) Age/Sex: 19/M Relationship: Single IM: Samuel Birdsall (Facebook)
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| 14 Dec 2010 12:42 AM |
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My reading material is almost always non-fiction. I love sci-fi, fantasy, and historical fiction. My favorites are: Lord of the Rings, anything by Orson Scott Card, The Count of Monte Cristo, The Three Musketeers, the Chronicles of Narnia, Contact, Sherlock Holmes books, and the last Harry Potter (
The movie was so good! It was the first movie I had ever seen that lived up to my vision of the books, and that includes the superb Lord of the Rings movies.)
I do enjoy reading books about war though. I've read Sun Tzu's Art of War and researched every major American war to a ridiculous extent. I have some kind of weird fascination with warfare,therefore I want to be a military historian. I'll drown in books about warfare and love it lol. |
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PurpleGiraffe  MBTI: INTJ Age/Sex: 28/F Relationship: Jirafa sola IM:
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| 14 Dec 2010 12:45 PM |
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Justin, I was actually responding to Nadette's conclusion that Emma is an ENFP, and I was just saying that I could see it.  But, now that the debate has been "brought" I'm sticking to it! There is actually a lot of debate about Emma's (and Elizabeth Bennett's type as well) in fact. Most seem to indicate that Emma is, in fact, either an ENFP or an ENFJ and either way she is very immature. Also, just because someone prefers to use intuition doesn't mean that they are any good at it. Just sayin'. I could keep going. Don't make me re-read Emma just to debate. |
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JustinRWatson  MBTI: ENFP (7w8) - "The ultimate Nutter" Age/Sex: Relationship: IM:
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| 14 Dec 2010 03:40 PM |
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Emma is, in fact, either an ENFP or an ENFJ
Interesting..
You know, it's hilarious.. I know a few ENFJ women, and I could imagine them acting out EMMA quite naturally.. So from the choice of either ENFP or ENFJ, Emma would fit into the latter category much better. But Emma definitely does not show the characteristics of any ENFP I know.. She is not tactful enough.. She doesn't seem to use Ne properly as an ENFP would.. I could imagine her as an ESFP though. I get frustrated reading about her just like I sometimes get frustrated with the untactful behavior of some ESFPs I Know.. 
I can also see how Emma might be an ENFJ, but one thing is for certain, she definitely does not display Ne as her dominant personality trait.. |
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caprice  MBTI: eNfP Age/Sex: F Relationship: IM:
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| 14 Dec 2010 04:16 PM |
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I'm inclined to agree with Justin here. Emma seems to have very little intuition, and seems more concerned with match making as a means to raise social status than as a means to true love / deep connections, and is completely oblivious when this is happening organically.
I could see Elizabeth Bennett as ENFP though. Nothing can make me flip my switch more than seemingly arrogant, mean-spirited judgements. But if I realized I got it wrong, spoke too quickly and hurt someone's feelings. |
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Nadette  MBTI: ENFP Age/Sex: 2x/F Relationship: IM:
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| 14 Dec 2010 04:47 PM |
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I had to read "Emma" in high school and loved it because I related to Emma so much. I've always thought that we shared similar personalities. Justin's arguments warrant second-looking though  I'll have to think about this more. Not sure about Lizzie Bennett either. I kind of interpreted her as an ENFP I think, but was never as satisfied with her personality as I was with Emma. (I think I tend to do this a lot, lol. I definitely tend to emphasize similarities with myself more than differences...or go out of my way to relate to characters.) Maybe she is ENTP? Also have to give this more thought. |
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JustinRWatson  MBTI: ENFP (7w8) - "The ultimate Nutter" Age/Sex: Relationship: IM:
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| 14 Dec 2010 05:08 PM |
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I'm inclined to agree with Justin here. Emma seems to have very little intuition, and seems more concerned with match making as a means to raise social status than as a means to true love / deep connections, and is completely oblivious when this is happening organically. Hahaa.. Good explanation Caprice... As I said earlier on in this thread, Emma was a character who actually irritated me because she was terrible and oblivious to the way others would, could and were reacting.. Liz Bennett however, seems to possess more characteristics of an ENFP. Then again, I haven't really read pride & prejudice, more so, I watched the film and watched it once with my sister.. Perhaps watching it again would allow me to gain a better perspective on her.. I think she is more of an ENFP rather than an ENTP because of her playful mannerisms and how she interacts with people based more on this.. Hmm.. Will have to have a look into that..  |
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caprice  MBTI: eNfP Age/Sex: F Relationship: IM:
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| 14 Dec 2010 11:09 PM |
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I think it's interesting how quickly a general topic: Books??? can turn into a conversation about Jane Austin characters on an ENFP forum. The "good" women are always NFs (in my mind anyways), while the petty or nasty ones are always SJs. Many stand out NT guys as well. I love Jane Austin. She pioneered the romantic comedy. 
It got me thinking about my favorite books / characters, and how they are pretty much always written by Ns or are Ns. A simple observation, but one that I hadn't really made until now. I listed a couple of favs on my first post. Has anyone else read Anna Karenina or War and Peace. I'm sure the sheer volume of pages seems daunting to some ENFP's who have MUCH to do. But when I'm in a more introverted phase there is little that's as pleasurable as curling up with a well written, character driven novel. It's almost the same as getting to know real people - but without any of the exhaustion. And Tolstoy's work is so perceptive and engrossing that it reads fast and DOES NOT seem like 800 - 1000+ pages. It's in fact so sad to have it end. I think Pierre, and perhaps Natasha in W&P are ENFPs.
And if you have not read Confederacy of Dunces, DO!!! It isthe most hilarious book I've read to date!!! Funnier than Vonnegut, seriously. The main character seems to me to be INTJ, and is a ONE OF A KIND!!! Loads of quirky characters though, and crazy, bizarre misshaps. It's so much fun.... Also a Pulitzer Prize winner post-humously (he committed suicide and his mom shlepped his box of pages around for years until someone finally read>published).
If anyone has any enthusiastic recommendations, I would love to hear them!! I have more, but these are at the top of my list. |
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bella  MBTI: Age/Sex: Relationship: IM:
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| 14 Dec 2010 11:24 PM |
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I love books. I actually thought about writing one myself, the thought comes and goes. I mostly like Non-fiction. Court cases, murder-serial killers . I love biographies. I really enjoyed " The catcher and the Rye ".....love Anne Rice- also can get into romance novels to escape reality now and again. I also like spiritual books. Not religious, more about physic - mediums , anything mystical and mysterious, or the unknown. Love reading about ghosts and hauntings. Poetry is nice too.
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BirdsallSa  MBTI: ENFP (7 w/9's) (Technically incorrect, I know) Age/Sex: 19/M Relationship: Single IM: Samuel Birdsall (Facebook)
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| 15 Dec 2010 03:15 AM |
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"And if you have not read Confederacy of Dunces, DO!!! It isthe most hilarious book I've read to date!!! Funnier than Vonnegut, seriously. The main character seems to me to be INTJ, and is a ONE OF A KIND!!! Loads of quirky characters though, and crazy, bizarre misshaps. It's so much fun.... Also a Pulitzer Prize winner post-humously (he committed suicide and his mom shlepped his box of pages around for years until someone finally read>published)." Frankly, I hated Confederacy of Dunces. The reason for this is that Ignatius (the main character) is such a completely emotionless, uncaring, judgemental, backward- looking, cowardly, pathetic, simplistic, insidious (at times), ungrateful, gluttonous, callous, cruel douchebag. The characters were very well done, and the writing was superb, but Ignatius was somebody that deserved to be locked in prison alone for the rest of his life to write (in his opinion) brilliant critiques of the society he hated, which he would then (in a sense) be free from. |
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caprice  MBTI: eNfP Age/Sex: F Relationship: IM:
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PurpleGiraffe  MBTI: INTJ Age/Sex: 28/F Relationship: Jirafa sola IM:
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| 15 Dec 2010 10:20 AM |
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The "good" women are always NFs (in my mind anyways), This seems to be a recurring theme in literature (and not just in Jane Austen's works). Even those women who are greatly flawed and not altogether model individuals in the end are still very intriguing and lingering figures that can be related to and who we root for. Like Gustave Flaubert's Madame Bovary, for example. She is definitely far from perfect but we are still drawn in and feel her pain and wish for her happiness. |
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