H think he makes some good points...

>.> Only a ENFP would listen to that rambling and be able to pick out the good points. lol

Only a ENFP would listen to that rambling and be able to pick out the good points. lol

Of course, WJC himself is an enfp, so you guys speak the same language.

I thought Clinton was an ESFP

I thought Clinton was an ESFP

No way, Clinton definitely loves the big picture.

http://www.slate.com/id/2184696/pagenum/all/

^This website speculates on the types for Hillary Clinton, Obama, and McCain
It says:

The Guardians' steadfast posture also applies to their marriages. Keirsey writes that they are "extremely loyal to their mates and feel obliged to stand by them in times of trouble and help them straighten up and fly right. As a result, Guardians more easily than any other temperament can be hooked into becoming the rescuer of troubled mates." (Bill Clinton is an ESFP, what Keirsey calls "the Performer"—"thriving on the excitement of being on-stage." ESFPs are also "inclined to be impulsive and self-indulgent, which makes them vulnerable to seduction.")

but...according to wikipedia...:

Some practitioners have speculated that Bill Clinton is an ESFP.[8] However, according to the guidelines for the ethical use of the MBTI, only those taking the assessment can identify their own best fit.[9]

Which I guess means "STFU til he takes the test!" >.>

It is very hard to type polatitions they have to keep a mask on at all times.

The difference between the extraverted sensate type and the extraverted intuitive type is night and day. I agree that politics is basically acting for ugly people, but as long as we're looking at interactive situations and not campaign ads, we can make a good guess.

For example, consider Terry McAullife, who ran for governor of Virginia:












T-Mac is definitely an extraverted sensate type. Below is George Stephanopoulos, a former Clinton aide and an extraverted intuitive type.














Not being confused by the auxiliary function is critical in MBTI typing. Both Stephanopoulos and T-Mac are folks that extravert warmth and feeling. But just as T-Mac (ESTP) is pushy in a jolly way and doesn't take no for an answer, Stephanopoulos (ENTP) amuses himself at L-Ron's expense by giving him a clear, truthful answer to a stupid question. Clinton would never give someone a harsh answer to a stupid question (even a question about UFOs!) like Stephanopoulos did, even in jest; I've only seen WJC get confrontational in rare instances when he feels his values are threatened, even in those cases his posture is usually defensive, not offensive. Even in the UFO question above, Clinton empathizes with the questioner, and then pokes fun at himself, rather than giving a true-false answer. That's totally NF behavior.

"I'll be surprised if we don't find some form of life in another universe"
--Clinton

LOL.

being confused by the auxiliary function is critical in MBTI typing. Both Stephanopoulos and T-Mac are folks that extravert warmth and feeling. But just as T-Mac (ESTP) is pushy in a jolly way and doesn't take no for an answer, Stephanopoulos (ENTP) amuses himself at L-Ron's expense by giving him a clear, truthful answer to a stupid question. Clinton would never give someone a harsh answer to a stupid question (even a question about UFOs!) like Stephanopoulos did, even in jest; I've only seen WJC get confrontational in rare instances when he feels his values are threatened, even in those cases his posture is usually defensive, not offensive. Even in the UFO question above, Clinton empathizes with the questioner, and then pokes fun at himself, rather than giving a true-false answer. That's totally NF behavior.

I read Stephanopoulos' book years ago and I think he is an NF.

Ron Paul. I'm not sure what he is. Again very hard to type politicians because they always have their gameface on.

I thought ron paul had to be some sort of NT... but no real clue. You can tell by listening to him that he actually thinks about his ideas, though, and aims for long-term, deep-rooted solutions, rather than quick-fix ones. I also laughed at his wikipedia page, which said "Paul also spends extra time in the district to compensate for 'violat[ing] almost every rule of political survival you can think of.'" That whole "oh... fuck your political games. I'm gonna do what I think is best, and you can make up your own damn minds whether or not you want to vote for me" struck me as really NTish, haha.

I read Stephanopoulos' book years ago and I think he is an NF.

I did consider this, and you may be right. But Stephanopoulos struck me as having the same temperament as, let us say, Frank Luntz. There's a Machiavellian perceptiveness in many ENTPs which seems disloyal to observers, given they can imagine all points of view --a God's eye view, perhaps. And GS seems truthful, and somewhat businesslike in interpersonal situations. For example, there's a clip of him on The View where his conversational approach, after charming hellos, is completely professional and matter-of-fact.

If GS is not TP, then he has to be FJ. If you're right and GS is an NF, then which one? INFJ maybe?

Ron Paul, well, I think he's a lizard-person in human skin; does MBTI apply to aliens?

Then again, maybe GS extroverts thought (Te), and is enfp? Now I'm all confused!

O.O Does that mean that Obama isn't an ENFP? >.> Or is he a different version?