Stripes  MBTI: intj Age/Sex: M Relationship: IM:
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| 11 Feb 2012 06:22 AM |
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That is a very insightful thought Alysaria and it got me thinking. So if I understand you correctly .You are saying that the common denominator is the “differences” found between people and the superiority/inferiority some see in it? If you are correct in this and we somehow were able to change to a more homogenous and uniform society, would that just replace one problem with another one. No more individuality, no more competition no more creativity due to the fact that someone might feel inferior to someone ells and ridicule the other for a perceived superiority complex because they succeeded where others have failed. Political correctness gone mad. Prejudice runs both ways not to mention jealousy . And I would think that the positive changes brought to the common denominator would improve the issue and not only replace one evil with another.
It kinda reminds me of.
Not really an ENFP utopia, I would think.
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Entejay  MBTI: Age/Sex: Relationship: IM:
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| 11 Feb 2012 12:24 PM |
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We are not becoming more homogeneous society Strips. We are becoming the opposite of it. Real capitalism is designed to bring people to more homogeneous state. And opposite of that isn't capitalism too. So whatever we live in today, it is far from capitalism. And it is not sustainable. And then you will say we have never had real socialism either. And I don't have an argument or addition to that question either. If we never had any real system, then we need to find above the systems. And find out why systems never reach to it's full potential. Maybe because systems are not independent as we previously think they are. They are still somehow manipulated and we miss it all. |
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Stripes  MBTI: intj Age/Sex: M Relationship: IM:
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| 11 Feb 2012 12:56 PM |
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What you are saying is right Entejay. Personally I don't follow any political -"isms". Their is however a Maxim of law that states "Let him who wishes to be deceived, be deceived". So until you find the common denominator you cannot fix the problem. So those who do the deceiving are going to continue on in their merry ways.
So if I may suggest this Maxim of law to you "He who questions well, learns well". |
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Entejay  MBTI: Age/Sex: Relationship: IM:
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| 11 Feb 2012 01:31 PM |
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Obviously we failed to find any common denominator since the word of this Maxim was invented. Obviously we haven't advanced an inch in terms of deception. And obviously, we don't have even a candidate for common denominator to base our thinking on. Or maybe we do? What about freedom? What about people wanting to live free? The amount of resources being wasted today is mind boggling. Just to imagine how many young people are not realizing their full potential makes me wish to throw up. Can you imagine where we could be today if we made those people use their abilities to the full? How can someone simply accept that as a way things happen? Someone someday said "Things had to get bad before they get better". I find it to be true. But just like the saying goes "Do you think glass is half empty or half full?" to which the answer is "It's twice as big as it should be"....we are just wasting to much time. We can't wait for things to be bad before they get better. We can't sit here and wait until someone scratches his balls and things start getting going. This is insane. Perhaps I just don't know how to deal with it. Even if I am...how can someone deal with something like that? Okay, I'm babbling again. |
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Stripes  MBTI: intj Age/Sex: M Relationship: IM:
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| 12 Feb 2012 01:22 AM |
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Of course there is a common denominator Entejay, you just haven’t put enough thought into it yet. "If you know not the names of things, the knowledge of the things themselves perish; and of you lose the names, the distinction of things is certainly lost" |
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alysaria  MBTI: ENFP Age/Sex: Relationship: IM: Empress of Random Founding Member
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| 12 Feb 2012 02:00 AM |
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In order for humanity to solve it's problems, we must cease to be human. Actually, I would rather say turn the competition to something positive rather than a nameless, faceless other to hate. Football teams don't sit in the locker room being fed propaganda about how the opposing team bathes in the blood of kittens in a heathen ritual to absorb the agility and cunning of a cat for a game. It would be completely ridiculous if they did - yet what kinds of equally stupid rumors do different countries believe about each other that have no basis in reality? |
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Entejay  MBTI: Age/Sex: Relationship: IM:
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| 12 Feb 2012 02:59 AM |
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Good idea Alysaria. How can I stop being human? Is there any way to transfer my conscience to some hard disk or something? I'm up for it. Even right now.
Strips. There always will be people who are too complacent to do anything outside their immediate needs. Unless it hits them, they will wallow in the mud of tranquility and never see the forest for the trees. You basically cannot depend on them. And besides, depending on them isn't a good idea either. What you need to have is to have a citizenry who can stand up for themselves. Who can move mountains under any circumstances. We don't have this. Well, minus myself. Majority of people suck. And they will suck until something terrible happens. I can't just sit here and wait until that happens. And if I found a solution, then I don't care about anyone who is going straight to hell.
We don't have a common denominator. We have a common fucker. And let that fucker fuck people until they get tired of it.
Evil is just as necessary as goodness. Goodness will never win over evil. Because without evil, goodness will never exist. |
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Stripes  MBTI: intj Age/Sex: M Relationship: IM:
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| 12 Feb 2012 10:27 AM |
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@Alysaria; So what you are telling me is that humans cannot solve the problems they created? And there is a big differnce between compeating for sport and fighting for ones life. And some people acually do drink the blood of humans and some strange creatures including eating human flesh.
@Entejay: So you can't actually solve your problems you mentioned, because your problems actually involve the peole you ridicule. So can I take it then that you are surrendering? And their is a common denominator, they just know what it is while you don't. |
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Entejay  MBTI: Age/Sex: Relationship: IM:
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| 12 Feb 2012 10:49 AM |
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Yes Strips you are right. You have a better idea? I'm all ears on you. |
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alysaria  MBTI: ENFP Age/Sex: Relationship: IM: Empress of Random Founding Member
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| 12 Feb 2012 06:05 PM |
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That's not what I said. Clearly the sarcasm of my sentence grew wings. >.> Out of all the reasons people fight, I would argue that only one isn't based on necessity. If resources and land are not an issue, it's all about power. That's the darker side of competition....the negative to balance out. It's easier to do questionable things in the search for power when the "other" is nameless, faceless, and smeared with propaganda. >.> We're not going to start a debate on cultural relativism now, are we? |
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Stripes  MBTI: intj Age/Sex: M Relationship: IM:
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| 12 Feb 2012 11:27 PM |
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@ Entejay: Well seeing as I know what the common denominator is, I have a limitless amount of better and worse ideas.
@Alysaria: You know following your lead I think I uderstand now the pleasure found out of just being a "pain"  |
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Entejay  MBTI: Age/Sex: Relationship: IM:
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| 13 Feb 2012 12:26 AM |
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Maybe Strips. Maybe I haven't figured it out yet. As long as I live, I do have a chance to figure it out. At this point I just focus on what works. Some people seems to be focusing on that too. Lets call it "an alliance born out of necessity". We may not agree on everything, but our necessities outweigh our differences. Perhaps this may be called the common denominator? Perhaps. But this is not what you propose I suppose? |
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alysaria  MBTI: ENFP Age/Sex: Relationship: IM: Empress of Random Founding Member
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| 13 Feb 2012 09:24 PM |
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@Stripes - I am the youngest of 4  It's a honed skill. |
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