JerseyCityENFP  MBTI: ENFP Age/Sex: 42/male Relationship: single IM:
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| 22 Jan 2010 05:41 PM |
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I long suspected it:
http://www.slate.com/id/2184696/pagenum/2
and now have independent support.
My thinking was based on this: his deadpan face (typical of FPs or TJs); his great speaking ability and comfort in front of crowds (an E, I figure); his idealism (NF, I figure); his multi-tasking; his broad friendships (he goes golfing with the White House cook); and also his good sense of humor during public speaking.
Alright! One of us in the White House!
I wonder if he knows he is an ENFP?
Do others agree?
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EnterTheMatrix  MBTI: Age/Sex: Relationship: IM:
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| 21 Apr 2010 04:53 PM |
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I've heard multiple websites identify Michelle as an INTJ  P although.. I've not heard her speak often. HOWEVER, I think she fits the part pretty well  She's typically quiet, you know, seems a little more rigid than Obama (She's a hard working mother; deadlines and to do lists have to be a daily part of her life xD) The NT is what would be hard to identify, because she hardly speaks :/ but, this is just my opinion.  D |
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alysaria  MBTI: ENFP Age/Sex: Relationship: IM: Empress of Random Founding Member
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| 21 Apr 2010 05:09 PM |
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I've heard multiple websites identify Michelle as an INTJ  |
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Zsych  MBTI: xNTx Age/Sex: 28/M/Austin Relationship: IM:
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| 21 Apr 2010 07:58 PM |
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Idealism happens in NTs about as often. Its just not as much of an emotional issue to the NT. Obama... ENTX is what I would think, although its not like an INTX can't be irritated into action - even public/political level action, if what he sees violates his sense of how things should be. |
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Charlie  MBTI: Age/Sex: Relationship: IM: ENFP
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| 22 Apr 2010 01:01 AM |
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Obama is an ENFJ. If you read his writing from "The Audacity of Hope" it is a blue print for Fe and Ni. |
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JHBowden  MBTI: ENTJ Age/Sex: 31 Relationship: IM: Dark Lord of the Sith
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| 22 Apr 2010 10:20 AM |
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Everyone is wrong, Obama is an ESFP.
Just kidding. |
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Nick  MBTI: ENFP Age/Sex: M/34 Relationship: IM:
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| 26 May 2010 05:45 PM |
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Over the last few days, I've been perusing through the internet looking at pages to do with personality types (a topic that's not unfamiliar to folks on this forum no doubt). One site I came across was http://www.keirsey.com. I found it to be a pretty good - lots of good content. Impressed, I continued to read through their various analysis and applications. And one thing that particularly caught my attention was the listings of forgone US Presidents and their personality types. I thought to myself, hmmm... let's see how the trusty ENFP fairs in the past presidential race. So I clicked on the link for "Idealists (NF's)" and up popped the text - "There are none!!!!". I felt dejected. How could this be? I thought some NT must have had a smug smile when writing that - trying to make the point that us idealist are no good 'head in the cloud' feelers who are a little too far removed from reality. Still dejected, I thought, what hope is there for the poor NF's? If we can't be president, then what can we be. But then I remembered - I remembered talk about Barack Obama being an ENFP. So, I thought, hmmm, maybe they've just profiled him differently. So I had a look to see if I could find their type for Barack. And I couldn't find him. "Hmm..." I thought. Maybe they just haven't gotten around to updating the site yet. But it's been nearly 18 months now. And "Ah..." I thought, the smug author conveniently "doesn't have time" to update the page. An NF in the director’s chair hey... put that in your pipe and smoke it buddy! http://www.slate.com/id/2184696/pagenum/2 This is a pretty good article. Worth a read. So first NF president hey. Will be interesting to see how he goes down in history. I guess with all the challenges facing the US at the moment, an inspirator at the helms is probably a good thing. I was interested to read John McCain’s quote - "To encourage a country with only rhetoric is not a promise of hope. It is a platitude." Maybe that’s the devil’s advocate down playing the vision and grand goals that an Inspirator can see, but those which SP’s like McCain find it hard to believe. But the point on ‘action’ – can Barack lead by action is a good question. ENFP’s aren’t the best when it comes to decision making. We tend to hold out for quite awhile before jumping. And ENFP’s aren’t really the best at administration (speaking from experience). But, I was glad to read this quote from Obama - "I need to have good people in place who can make sure that systems run". This leads me to think that yes, if he sets himself up right, he can achieve the goal of good presidency, and maybe see though some of his grandiose ideas. First NF president. And ENFP of that. Hope he does us proud. |
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ENFPGuy  MBTI: ENFP-Type 7 Age/Sex: M/30/Dallas Relationship: Married to awesome INTJ IM: Lordxred - (aol)
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| 01 Jun 2010 01:27 PM |
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Obama is an ENFJ. |
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Nick  MBTI: ENFP Age/Sex: M/34 Relationship: IM:
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| 17 Jun 2010 01:59 AM |
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ENFJ or ENFP - first NF president nevertheless. Like the new profile pic by the way. |
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alysaria  MBTI: ENFP Age/Sex: Relationship: IM: Empress of Random Founding Member
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| 17 Jun 2010 12:00 PM |
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Frankly, I don't think an ENFP could handle being president. All that bureaucracy??? All those stupid rules that make no sense and only frustrate your desire to do anything good??? ARGH!!! Although....maybe it's just me, but there could be some restrained irritation in Obama's mannerisms these days. |
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HollyGolightly  MBTI: INFJ Age/Sex: 18/Female Relationship: Dating an INTP :) IM:
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| 17 Jun 2010 12:58 PM |
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He's never struck me as ENFP. He seems very ENFJ to me. |
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TheJan  MBTI: COOL Age/Sex: 22/m Relationship: Wouldn't you like to know... IM:
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| 17 Jun 2010 01:46 PM |
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Can you imagine ENFP-Obama when his silly switch goes on? I think he is an ENFJ. He does not seem very ENFP. ENFJ seems very fitting, on the other hand. |
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HollyGolightly  MBTI: INFJ Age/Sex: 18/Female Relationship: Dating an INTP :) IM:
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| 17 Jun 2010 02:44 PM |
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Can you imagine ENFP-Obama when his silly switch goes on? LOL I almost choked on my food.  |
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alysaria  MBTI: ENFP Age/Sex: Relationship: IM: Empress of Random Founding Member
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| 17 Jun 2010 02:50 PM |
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-nodnod- As much fun as it would be to *have* an ENFP president.....yeeeeeeeeeea..... chances are one day all the stress would just make them snap and yell something absolutely ridiculous at the VP during a press conference. That would be something I'd love to see.... Reporter: Mr President, what are your plans for the energy crisis? Pres: I'm glad you asked that...because I've had some wonderful ideas that..... OH FOR THE LOVE OF.... -turns on the VP- Stop giving me that look! I swear between you and congress, I sometimes wonder if I haven't grown a third head. You know what? I'll tell you what happened to my proposed bill! Mr Conservative Whinypants here said it 'wouldn't be practical' - You know what's not practical?? PAPERWORK! I have to fill out 8 forms to use the restroom! I would love to tell you that the energy crisis is solved! I would love to fix the deficit...but you know what? I CAN'T! And you know why?? Because we have a stupid government perpetuated in the idea of pretending to get things done but not really ever doing anything? Blah blah blah, doesn't matter what crap I spew out, as long as I look and sound professional. I'm SICK -pounds fist onto podium- of standing around looking important and not being allowed to do anything!! All you ever do is criticize me anyway! |
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Nick  MBTI: ENFP Age/Sex: M/34 Relationship: IM:
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| 17 Jun 2010 10:19 PM |
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Ha ha!! Very true. The angry enfp would definitely come out. |
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psychdigg  MBTI: ENFP Age/Sex: 65 Relationship: M IM:
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| 20 Jun 2010 07:11 PM |
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Obama is INTJ Lacks warmth of an ENFP Strong executive function - get things done. Whereas ENFP are inclined to socialize too much. Obama is skeptical and a pragmatist. ENFP's are open and accepting. Obama demands high standards and performance of those around him. ENFP's tend to tolerate slackers. Obama apparently thinks killing Taliban is OK. ENFP's would rather just be nice to their enemies with the hope of changing them. |
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alysaria  MBTI: ENFP Age/Sex: Relationship: IM: Empress of Random Founding Member
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| 21 Jun 2010 05:06 PM |
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Well that's harsh. You'd think ENFPs went into prisons to give the rapists cookies so they'd feel that motherly love they were lacking. Yea...no. You've clearly never seen an ENFP in a champion rage. If you hurt, misuse, mistreat, or otherwise abuse the innocent, woe betide you! All people are entitled to freedom and happiness...but not at the expense of another's.... Fairness and equality are not synonymous with being a doormat or accepting everyone's right to do whatever they want without question 1. ENFPs may be warm, but we'd decided he *wasn't* and was more likely an ENFJ. And even if he isn't ENFP warm, he's not exactly cold and calculating either. 2. >.> In the grand scheme of things, Obama has done very little. And in fact, has adopted some of the policies he criticized Bush for during the election season. I can't see an INTJ's pride allowing him to do that. 3. Obama gave out jobs for sob stories....that's not really skeptical or pragmatic. His entire platform was staged on idealism and hope.... 4. Most Js have high standards for performance and don't appreciate time being wasted. TJs are more inclined to be "time is money" sorts who feel that when you're at work, you should be working.... FJs are a little more of a mind to personalize it as *their* time and money being wasted. ENFJs are the caretakers....the ones with infinite patience for people. An ENFJ isn't exactly a bad choice for the state of the government as it is.....maybe not the best, but it does allow for him to be consistently cool and very difficult to overset. |
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psychdigg  MBTI: ENFP Age/Sex: 65 Relationship: M IM:
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| 21 Jun 2010 07:52 PM |
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Obama is a thinker not a feeler. The criticism he is getting now about not showing enough feeling in connection with the gulf oil spill is one example. Did you forget his nickname? No DRAMA OBAMA. INTJ's are pragmatists. As a politician the most practical criteria is "will this get me re-elected". He's throwing raw meat to every dog in the junkyard. I would grant a modest amount of extraversion over introversion kind of an XNTJ. Even though the dichotomous structure of MBTI forces a person into a certain category the reality is that most people are straddling some neighboring types and incorporating those characteristics into their personaltiy. ENTJ would be a likely 2nd choice for Obama. ISTJ and ENTP tied for 3rd. But no-where do I see "feeling". |
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alysaria  MBTI: ENFP Age/Sex: Relationship: IM: Empress of Random Founding Member
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| 22 Jun 2010 12:26 PM |
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I sent an email to the president requesting he and the first lady take the test - provided they have the time to do so - in order to clear up this debate.  I don't expect an answer, but it would be funny if I got one. >.> Isn't it possible he's an ENFJ who picked up T traits from his INTJ wife? You live with someone long enough, you start to rub off on each other a bit. I know when it's time to get down to business, I turn into my ESTJ mother. |
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Psyko  MBTI: INTJ Age/Sex: Thirtysomething - Female Relationship: Just got married to her amazing ENFP IM: ENFP Muse & Addicted
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| 22 Jun 2010 03:38 PM |
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We can't take what we see from them in public at face value. They give speeches prepared for them by other people and they are revised a hundred times before they are being held. I don't think it's possible to type them. He,he good idea to just ask alysaria. Maybe the FBI puts you in the looney drawer with all the psychiatric patients now... ? Lol! |
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