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The value of idleness
Last Post 31 Jul 2009 09:36 PM by snail. 4 Replies.
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29 Jul 2009 04:28 PM  
If I had to guess, this idea will probably help out at least a couple ENFPs who drop by this site . I think, if you look around the US, adult-life is practically designed for ESTJs, especially in the workplace... and maybe ESFJs, for social events and office-speak. As such, the "adult" values handed down to us are productivity, a sense of duty, respect for superiors (in the workplace, for example), etc. I'm also not sure what your experiences have been, but whenever I reject these values, I can practically feel the ESxJ adults patting me on the head and saying "well, you'll grow up some day."

Anyway... I wanted to pass on these two links because you guys are NPs like me (the most pliable of all types, who like to work at their leisure and spread their attention around--opposite of what the ESxJ corporate world is set up for), and I believe that idleness and rest are essential for a fulfilling or meaningful life. I don't mean just "not working", either, but I mean truly not focusing anywhere. That is, when you're in a room, instead of turning on the TV and flipping around for 20 minutes when you know nothing that you really want to watch is on, instead lay back, turn off the lights, and rest until you're aching to go do something--and then rest some more anyway, just to decondition your mind and get rid of the need to be busy and focused that our world has implanted there.

Anyway, I found these two links to be interesting reads, and thought they might help out some fellow NPs who have become disillusioned with their "unproductive" tendencies, since it's the exact opposite of what the world demands of us.

http://www.backwoodshome.com/columns/wolfe060615.html
http://www.backwoodshome.com/articles2/wolfe109.html
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29 Jul 2009 05:42 PM  
Go read rich dad poor dad...

Also, I think fulfilling a vision is good. Some materialism is good.
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29 Jul 2009 09:20 PM  
fulfilling a vision, yes, I think so. I was actually writing this mostly to reach out to the people who don't have a materialistic vision, though, so that they wouldn't feel pressured to adopt one just to fit in.

I'm gonna be honest... I've read about 30 books in my whole life, so I'm unlikely to read that one... er, maybe unless it's on pirate bay or something (for some reason, I don't mind reading on a computer screen... just plain words on paper put me to sleep quickly, though). Would a summary of it online somewhere suffice, for whatever you expect me to get from it, or would I need to read the whole thing?
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29 Jul 2009 10:35 PM  
I'm gonna be honest... I've read about 30 books in my whole life, so I'm unlikely to read that one... er, maybe unless it's on pirate bay or something (for some reason, I don't mind reading on a computer screen... just plain words on paper put me to sleep quickly, though). Would a summary of it online somewhere suffice, for whatever you expect me to get from it, or would I need to read the whole thing?


There are a lot of points to many to summarize here. I wholly recommend it.

I'm reading Malcolm Gladdwell's book Tipping Point now. But I'm not in school so I read now for pleasure. Brilliant.

If I could recommend 1 book business to read it would be "The Black Swan".

http://www.amazon.com/Black-Swan-Impact-Highly-Improbable/dp/1400063515

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_swan_theory

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31 Jul 2009 09:36 PM  
While reading the joys of idleness it occurred to me that this "work is good" mentality is a symptom of the yang overbalance created by the rarity of yin qualities in effective individuals. People are striving for happiness by actively obtaining objects associated with pleasure instead of by appreciating the absence of doing unpleasurable things. It is my impression that the E, the S, the T and the J, are all yang characteristics, while the I, N, F, and P are yin. An imbalance in either direction, on a cultural scale, will create disharmony and collapse.
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