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01 Dec 2009 07:50 PM  

I wrote this post for a different forum... but thought you guys might appreciate it too--being "big ideas" people and all.  It's a split between science and philosophy, but fits better here.  For some context, the discussion people were having was around Richard Dawkins, and sort of turned into an "if our best efforts turn up no evidence for God, why should we believe it?"  I didn't really talk too much about their argument, so it's not that important, but that's the context.  The point of this was mostly to say "it all depends on what you consider evidence"--as well as because I thought it was so cool of an idea that I just had to tell someone .

 

In one of our classes, we have a sort of catch-all of interesting topics pertaining to physics (directed towards physics majors, but as if you don't have a lot of prior experience in the field)... and today, we heard a little talk on cosmology.

The lecturer was talking a bit about how we know that the universe is expanding... which is kind of cool, because it's something I knew nothing about. Well, I knew it had to do with the Redshift (think "doppler effect", only with light), but that always struck me as such an indirect/feeble argument for the tremendous claim that space itself is expanding at an accelerating rate.  I mentioned this a bit in the "is the universe getting older?" thread over in the science subforum too.

Apparently, though, it started out with peoples' suspicions examining the good old cosmic microwave background. You can think of that as random blips of radiation that seem to be coming from nowhere in particular. We shine our instruments up at the sky, and they detect radiation: that's all they mean by it. Anyway, no matter which direction we point our telescopes, the cosmic microwave background is the same--same wavelength distribution of photons measured to a precision that (the guy said) you would have to magnify the error bars (measure of our uncertainty of measurement, statistically) on the graph about 100x before you could even see them. It sent me off daydreaming for a while, because it's a bit as if the blankness of space were all the exact same solid object.

Now, there was, supposedly, some way they would have expected this. I didn't understand it at all, but it was something to do with if the photons being emitted from opposite corners of the universe were together way back in the distant past, everything would have cooled at the same rate. The only problem is, given our best scientific predictions, the universe isn't even old enough that one side of it could have communicated with the other (that is, a photon couldn't even travel from one end to the other--and since nothing travels faster than the speed of light, there's just no way) unless the universe's expansion is accelerating, and at some point surpassed the speed of light. When they say "space expands," they mean really that "extra" space is added in between points that currently exist. The more distant something is, the more easily noticeable the effects of space's expansion are.

Given its acceleration, and the fact that we're looking at things so far away that on the edge of our vision, our best theories predict that stars that we can see will no longer be observable in the distant future. And slowly but surely, galaxies and distant stars will vanish, from the most distant stars to the closer ones, as space expands fast enough that light can no longer reach us from the most distant set.


Of course, you can imagine what our hypothetical, earthbound, distant progeny would say as they look up at the blank sky. "What fantastic science-fiction those ancients wrote! Imagine how remarkable it would be, were there really billions of other worlds just like our own out there!" And if they used their best reasoning and observations to the best of their ability, they certainly wouldn't find any sign of other worlds in the sky.


What I found even more exciting is the simple fact that, throughout all of written human history, it's been practically a "default" that the night sky was linked to the divine. It was Ptolemy's justification for why anyone should care about the stars in the Almagest, that no other field of study would prepare men for the nobleness of character that Astronomy did (or something like that). It's also the reason for Galileo's persecution--it was primarily enforced by the religious authorities, but suggesting that the Earth wasn't the center of the universe trampled on millennia of philosophical thought (on things like how the universe circling around us sets Earth as a divine stage for the heavenly bodies, and things like that).  It was a threatening idea to them at the time.  And truly, Galileo's observation came at a time when the stage was shifting, just after the Renaissance, to be followed by the very prevalent "nobody is special, and we're just like everything else" worldview (whether it be in the similarities between ourselves and the animals, our planet and the others, or even our brains and the computers we're trying to build)

And today, I'm told by our cosmologists that the heavens are fading out of sight, never to be reached/seen again. And once again, the cosmos reflect Human Thought--losing touch with the divine until our best efforts won't even lead us there. How many galaxies must have slipped beyond our sight-lines already, over the course of human history!


I may have just made myself sound insane... but these are the types of things I think about while I sit in science classes. When people try to talk as if science can replace religion (like Dawkins), it boggles my mind. I want to go "just which universe are you watching, anyway?" It's all about what you consider data; is 2000 years of peoples' mental paradigms following their cosmological views evidence for something strange going on, or can you blow it off as a very long coincidence and insist that everything real has a physical cause?

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02 Dec 2009 09:26 AM  
I will eventually get to reading this, it's really long so my attention span pooped out after a few sentences lol However, it does sound interesting and I will read it within a few days lol
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23 Dec 2009 07:36 PM  
The War Against The Mundanes

The reality of these our causal-times is that we are at war with the mundanes, and this war is both a practical one, and an esoteric one involving our Dark, esoteric, Arts.

One of the reasons for this war is that we are in direct conflict because the aims of the mundanes are mundane, while our aims are a manifestation of the sinister-numen. Another reason is that the mundanes have constructed tyrannical systems – governments, government agencies (such as the Police), and societies – which now exist to enforce and ensure, by the threat or the use of physical force, mundane-ness, and which tyrannical systems demand and enforce the collection of taxes in order to perpetuate their own mundane tyrannical existence. Another reason is that the mundanes have manufactured lifeless, un-numinous, abstractions – ideas, theories, -isms and -ologies – which enshrine mundane-ness and which abstractions keep the majority in thrall.

In essence, the mundanes are Earth-bound, sunk into the mire of materialism, and wallowing in undisciplined emotions and greedful self-indulgence, while we aspire to be more than we are, to evolve, and desire to control ourselves, to master ourselves, and seek to leave our childhood home which is this planet Earth: to seed ourselves among the star-systems of our Galaxy; to create entirely new ways of living and to have the freedom, the space, the territory, to explore, to discover, to dwell and live as we wish.

Thus do we seek out, and come to revel in, the sinister-numen and its manifestation as our Dark, esoteric, Arts, and thus do we seek to test ourselves, to take ourselves to and beyond our human limits. Thus do we come to despise the restrictions of the morality of the mundanes, and all their laws and all their mechanisms of people-control – practical, physical; and of the mind – which helps ensure the docility of the tax-paying masses.

We despise the way the mundanes have meekly surrendered what should be their numinous individuality to abstract systems such as The State, and thus allow The State, some government, some impersonal authority, to decide what “justice” is and what is lawful and unlawful.  We despise this because we know – we feel – that no one, no System, no government, no State, no supra-personal authority, has any right to presume and assume control of us; no right to usurp and take away our individual judgement by replacing what is only and ever numinously personal by some abstract law which they in their mundaneness have manufactured.

For us – in contrast to the mundanes – it is our natural right, our evolved duty, to take control of our own lives; to be responsible for ourselves, in the immediacy of the moment and beyond. Thus, our way is the way of individual, personal, honour – of dealing with matters in our own way and directly, person-to-person. For we know – we feel – that such self-discipline and such self-control as arises from upholding our law of personal honour is an evolution, a liberation, of ourselves, and represents the true freedom that the tyrannical systems of the mundanes do deny us and have denied us.

Thus we know – we feel – that it is up to us, as individuals, to judge others in the immediacy of the moment; through personal knowing of others. Thus do we scorn and reject the notion of judging others according to each and every abstraction – each and every -ism and -ology – which the mundanes have manufactured and which they themselves in their stupidity and their mundaneness use to judge others.

Thus we know – we feel – that it is up to us, as individuals to defend ourselves, to equip ourselves for defence, and to seek recompense and vengeance from those who may have harmed us: that it is our right, our evolved duty, to dispense – to be – justice. Our safety, and justice, resides in us, as evolved individuals strengthened in thought, understanding and in deed by the sinister-numen. Our safety does not depend upon some mundane Police force, just as true, numinous, justice does not reside in some mundane Court of Law or in some manufactured abstract Law: it resides in individuals such as us, in people of our honourable, sinister-numinous, kind.

Thus, for us, personal honour is a practical manifestation of the sinister-numen; for us, honour is the law of the New Aeon which we seek, through our aims, our deeds, our sinister Dark Arts, to bring-into-being. Thus, for us, personal honour is a presencing of those evolutionary, those acausal, energies which can change us into a higher type, a new species, of human being.

Thus, for us, our sinister-numinous tribes are an appropriate, a necessary, way to live – for such tribes are where personal honour can live and thrive; where we ourselves – where our kind – can live and thrive and evolve, free from the restraints, the abstractions, the morality, of the mundanes, and free, liberated from, from the tyranny of States and governments.

Thus we, and our tribes – we, The Drecc – are at war with the mundanes, and with their States and governments, desiring as we do to replace the tyranny of mundane abstractions by our sinister-numen, and desiring as we do to replace their States and governments, and their laws, by our new tribal way of life based on our law of the sinister-numen, which law of ours is personal honour.

 

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Anton Long
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120 Year of Fayen

 

 

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Intimations of The New Aeon

 

Expressed simply, the New Aeon is the Aeon of a new type of human being; an evolution of ourselves; the birth of a new human species.

As mentioned in several Order of Nine Angles MSS, the basis of the next – the new – Aeon will be a move toward genuine individuality (manifest exoterically in the only law being the law of personal honour) and a move away from the lifeless abstractions of the Old Order, manifest as these abstractions are in such things as nations, States, and impersonal large governments. Thus, there is a rejection of applying abstract, lifeless, categories to people, and “the world” in general, and a rejection of all the old tyranny of ideas and ideals; a rejection of old forms such as “politics” and “religion”; a rejection of all -ologies and -isms, with individuals ceasing to identify with such lifeless things, such lifeless abstractions, ceasing to judge by them, and ceasing to be involved with them. There will be, instead, a self-independence and a self-responsibility, arising from self-knowledge (what we who know term esoteric, Initiated, insight), and an acceptance of each individual as a unique being with a unique, individual, identity, and thus a move away from living in large lifeless cities and large towns, and toward instead a living in small, “folk”-type, communities will will be often, or mostly, rural.

All this is rather futuristic, and will take a certain amount causal Time – of the order of several centuries – to be brought into-being. In practical terms there is a move away from the duality inherent in all lifeless abstractions. Thus, individuals will no longer think in terms of such dualities; no longer be motivated by such dualities; or seek to identify with what is abstracted or deemed to be a type, or the type (the archetype), of one polarity. Hence, in the New Aeon, the individual will aspire to be only themselves, and not be guided by, or manipulated (by others), not aspire to be some stereotype; nor identify with some archetype, or with some commercialized “norm”. Thus, expectations will be personal, and arise naturally, internally, and not from any external source. There will be, importantly, a rejection of assigning abstractions, such as “good” and “evil”, to anything and everything, and instead only a reliance on personal, individual, judgement based on a direct and personal knowing.

Magickally, the New Aeon is the Aeon of numinous magick – beyond word, ceremonies, ritual, chant (and so on) – and manifest in a natural empathy with esoteric energies, and thus a use of those energies via the faculty of empathy. One aspect of this new magick is prefigured in The Star Game (with its numinous symbology), which “Game” enables the development of the ability to think, to-be, beyond the causal forms and restrictions of the Old Order.

Chaos, Aeons, and the Destruction of the Old Order

For the New Aeon to become manifest, for the new ways of living, of being, of thinking, to become real for large numbers of peoples, the tyranny of the Old Order has to end. Individuals have to – in increasing numbers – reject the lifeless abstractions of the Old Order, and instead adopt the life, the ways, the modes of being and of thinking and of living, appropriate to the coming New Aeon. Esoterically, this means Initiates and Adepts adopting the new type of magick of the New Aeon, and this requires the development of latent Occult abilities which development arises most naturally from a letting-go of what the Old Aeon has interposed between us, as individuals, and Life, and thus an awareness, for example, of individuals, of Nature, of the Cosmos – an awareness of their “energies” – as these beings are, in and of themselves. Currently, the Seven-Fold Way is one means to do this.

However, the Old Order is not just going to die; it is not about to die; and in order to understand it – and thus understand how and why the New Aeon can arise – one has to have or develope a certain, Initiated, esoteric understanding. This understanding is manifest in Aeonics, which reveals that the Old Order is akin to a living-being, and thus has a life, a purpose, a wyrd, of its own.

Understood esoterically, the current Old Order – the Order of nation-States, of politics, of dogmatic religion; of colonial wars and conquest; of individuals subservient and in thrall to some abstraction and some lifeless supra-personal government and law – is a natural product of the ending of the current Old Aeon (the Thorian, or “Western” Aeon), and, left to itself, such a life-form would be affecting and interfering in the lives of individuals for around another two or three centuries or so. Then, a New Aeon would arise, with new ways of life, a new ethos, and a new type of “order” would begin, imbued with the “life-force” of the living-being of the New Aeon. Thus would this new living-being grow, affect people, live and change – and then slowly fade, to die, when another beginning would (or should) arise.

But, we have now reached the stage of our evolution, as conscious beings, when we have: (1) the knowledge, the insight, to know and understand this process; to know and understand such living, supra-personal life-forces which influence, affect, and – to a certain extent – control non-Adepts (control through such things as archetypes, ethos, mythos, and so on); (2) the (Occult) ability to be able to intervene in this cycle of Aeonic change, and thus bring-into-being new forms; new types of Aeonic life.

This Initiated (esoteric) insight and knowledge reveals two things. First, that the current Old Order has itself been changed, transmuted, distorted, from its natural state, and it has thus become very different from what it should have been (which was to be a prelude to the New Aeon itself). In practical terms, its ethos – its very “life” – has been infected by a kind of virus, or (to use another similitude) it has been manipulated by a kind of genetic-engineering appropriate to such specialized life-forms (See Footnote 1 below). Second, that our development of technology (and other things) enables this Old Order (and those consciously or otherwise using it) to have more control over, more direct affect upon, both the outward life, and the very psyche, of individuals.

These two factors mean several very important things, among which are: (1) that the life-span of the Old Order has been extended quite significantly; (2) that individuals, instead of liberating themselves and moving toward the next stage of our conscious evolution, are being increasingly controlled, manipulated, and subject to a tyrannical way of life; and (3) individuals, per se, increasingly have less opportunities to escape the thralldom of the Old Order, and little opportunity to effectively, and in practical ways, fight its ever-increasing tyranny and control.

Hence, instead of presenting opportunities for change, instead of being the genesis for evolutionary change, instead of slowly declining and giving way to a New Aeon (See Footnote 2 below), what exists now – and affects and afflicts the world – is stifling real change; and de-evolving individuals; and growing in strength, in its thralldom. Thus, in order for the New Aeon to now arise, this tyrannical Old Order has to undermined and destroyed, and this undermining and this destruction has to be both practical and esoteric.

Esoterically, this undermining is, in part, a championing of Chaos: of whatever challenges or distorts, or fights, or can infect, the ethos, the life, of the being which is now this Old Order, and part of this is championing that which, and those who, re-present an evolutionary form of the Thorian ethos. Practically, this undermining and destruction can be aided and brought about by two things. First, by championing the New Aeon and its practical manifestations, such a new ways of living external to the Old Order (small communities of esoterically aware and esoterically inclined individuals); and secondly, by open and direct conflict – social, military, political and religious – with the forces and allies of this Old Order. But, on the practical level – affecting the whole planet – it is only through the emergence of a new Imperium, which restores and which extends the Thorian ethos of the current Aeon as a necessary prelude to the New Aeon, that the Old, now Magian, Order will be defeated.

Imperium and The New Aeon

Imperium is a prelude to The New Aeon, for it is the alchemical crucible which will create not only the conditions, esoterically and exoterically, for the New Aeon to arise and flourish, but will also be the practical genesis of that new human type, that new human species, who and which are the essence of this New Aeon, this new type of life.

According to the ONA mythos, the New Aeon will only arise and be the norm for people when we have begun to seed ourselves among the stars, just as the New Aeon can only survive and flourish and be the genesis for even greater evolution when we have established divergent, independent, new, communities both on Earth and among the stars. Thus, the Imperium will build – will be – the practical foundation upon which and from which this human seeding will be built.

But, for Imperium to be, there has to be Vindex: a man, or woman, of wyrd, who initially re-presents a new and evolutionary form of the genuine Thorian ethos, but who becomes (or rather, gives rise to) the archetype for the new human type, the new, evolutionary, human species, and who thus is the inspiration for the New Aeon itself. The esoteric reality – the esoteric truth – is that Imperium is and will be a living-being, a new and unique type of life, a new type of nexion, initially embodied in and by a living human being, but becoming, over causal Time, a being of its own. Hence, without this living beginning – this human-being of wyrd – this will be no Imperium, just as this Imperium is, esoterically, and correctly, a Dark Imperium because it is so living, in its beginning and its changing and evolution, having been so inspired, so brought to life, into-being, by the work of Initiates and Adepts of The Dark Tradition, the living tradition, which Initiates and which Adepts understand and know all life for the presencing of the dark acausal energy that it is.

Without Vindex, there can be no Imperium, and no practical defeat of the Old Order in the near future, and thus no emergence, some causal time later, of the New Aeon itself; no evolution of ourselves, as human beings; no new human species. There will only be further de-evolution; a morbid tyranny; and our dreary end upon a dying planet.

All esoteric Orders of The Dark Tradition – all Initiates and Adepts, working alone or together, and following our sinister path – are willing agents of Chaos, acting for the emergence of our Dark Imperium, and thus aiding, from the destruction of the Old Order, a New Aeon of genuine evolutionary change where we will be, and evolve – and have our being – among the very stars of the Cosmos.

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Anton Long
Order of Nine Angles
120 Year of Fayen

Footnotes:

(1) Esoterically, this change, this modification, this distortion (or infection) is described as Magian, having occurred under the aegis (both consciously and otherwise) – and for the benefit of – Yahud, with part of this change occurring by what has been exoterically described as “social engineering”, for which see, for example, the exoteric text Vindex: The Destiny of The West.

(2) As explained in many esoteric MSS, without this Magian distortion, without this infection, of the ethos, the life, of the current Thorian Aeon, we should now be in the beginnings of a Thorian Imperium, which Imperium would have been the necessary prelude to the New Order, and thus the beginning of our change into a new, more evolved, human species. However, the forces of this incipient Thorian Imperium were exoterically defeated – on a practical level – by the de-evolutionary Magian and their allies.

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28 Dec 2009 08:03 PM  

You are Man's Heart, silvertongue... or at least this particular persona is.  Most likely you both are, though.

I had to snicker while googling to read about some of this, though. "We are enemies of every system, all the -ologies and -isms.... yet we call ourselves the Drecc because we have certain things in common with each other, and fight for various anarchic/chaotic/subversive goals as a tribal people." lol.


(don't worry about it, justwandering . I won't feel bad if nobody responds, cause I don't spend a whole lot of time on here that you guys get to know me well enough that I'd feel bad if you didn't really care, and I'm not sure how much ENFPs enjoy stuff like that anyway)

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30 Dec 2009 10:37 AM  

Posted By Silvertongue on 30 Dec 2009 09:37 AM
Yes, the WSA352 is full of idiots. They are the tools of that with which they think themselves contemporary.

What's worth bearing in mind is that they deal in a degenerated version of something categorically divorced from idiocy. They are merely orphans seeking a family: easy to mold, without roots, and absurd in their overcompensation. The same applies to any of the morons who call themselves ''Drecc'' or go on about cultivating a sinister bloodline etc.

What's also worth bearing in mind: when serving its function, this has nothing to do with an ideology. It's a practical system, and these kinds of traps are set to cull the kind of person who falls into them and enhance the kind who doesn't. There is no contradiction in its essence. But the essence in execution produces layers upon layers of seductive identities and tribal identifications and contradictory subversive aims and dogmas-- they serve as an experiential aid in forcing the initiate to go beyond such illusory dualism and childish rebellion, to the coherent structure which underlies them. And they, unlike direct verbal statement, elicit an empathetic and direct understanding of the nature of the system's essence.

It's basically a way of liberation. Like Zen Buddhism, or authentic Yoga, or whatever else. But-- different. Very different.

And googling it won't teach you about it. Thankfully, there are still some things in this world with mystery. And which yield understanding only after prolonged, sincere attempts at understanding of a different kind than, for example, that involved in modern examination systems. I'm not asking you to do that, though-- I'm just talking to you because I like you.

The quoted material was just a way of contacting you. It's tripe. But, as you've probably guessed, I do work with that which it apes.

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30 Dec 2009 10:50 AM  

 Aditionally: systemically inchorent and conceptually bankrupt thouygh they are, people like the WSA and ONA-NXS (as distinct from the original ONA) do serve as a gateway to that which they fail to be. And as a disruption of that which, ultimately, binds and blinds the mass of form-happy humans. They are, in a limited way, an embodiment of extensional-chaos and thus a tiny challenge to that which the vast majority of contemporary structures consist of: intensional illusion.

(Yes, intensional.)

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