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Am I "heartbroken" or just being over dramatic?
Last Post 19 Oct 2011 03:44 AM by Kairi. 24 Replies.
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Sharon Vineyard  MBTI: INTP Age/Sex: Gender Neutral Relationship: Single IM:
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| 11 Oct 2011 05:21 PM |
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There was a person I felt for that I knew for some time that went to the same classes as I however, earlier today I found out that they already have a significant other. During the conversation I just nodded my head and shrugged it off but inside I felt sad, real sad. This person wasn't the first person I felt for, I had one before this but didn't turn out well (may have been worse than this time actually) but anyways we never established a relationship, it simply was to me a crush I had that turned out that I can never be with them for now at least. Nonetheless I feel miserable and sad so... am I "heartbroken" or am I just being over dramatic? |
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benkelsey  MBTI: ENFP Age/Sex: Relationship: IM:
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| 11 Oct 2011 07:33 PM |
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Na, not dramatic. Your just making a mistake I, and i bet a lot of other people on this forum, make. That mistake being getting way too attached to a crush. Even though the other person may not know we're into them we have already picked out wedding colors, so to speak. I know this has happened to me before!
But being sad about this is a normal response. Over dramatic would be trying to break them up or something. ; ) |
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Sharon Vineyard  MBTI: INTP Age/Sex: Gender Neutral Relationship: Single IM:
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| 11 Oct 2011 07:37 PM |
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Posted By benkelsey on 11 Oct 2011 06:33 PM
Na, not dramatic. Your just making a mistake I, and i bet a lot of other people on this forum, make. That mistake being getting way too attached to a crush. Even though the other person may not know we're into them we have already picked out wedding colors, so to speak. I know this has happened to me before!
But being sad about this is a normal response. Over dramatic would be trying to break them up or something. ; )
You're saying I am neither but more so just acting "normal?" I never believed in that word nor ever was called it before.
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benkelsey  MBTI: ENFP Age/Sex: Relationship: IM:
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| 11 Oct 2011 07:54 PM |
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Ok, normal becomes very elastic when you step on a board populated by ENFP's. And yes that's what i'm saying. |
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alysaria  MBTI: ENFP Age/Sex: Relationship: IM: Empress of Random Founding Member
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| 11 Oct 2011 08:09 PM |
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Extroverted intuition, which is the primary function of ENFPs and your secondary function, Sharon, is all about possibilities and options. It seems to be a pretty common that it will be triggered by a random person that has some inexplicable draw.... And the next thing you know, you're imagining your life together and it feels so real that you kind of forget it's just in your imagination. >.> I can't stand the song, but the sentiment is in the lyrics of You're Beautiful by James Blunt....falling completely in love with some random person he's never met. |
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Sharon Vineyard  MBTI: INTP Age/Sex: Gender Neutral Relationship: Single IM:
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| 11 Oct 2011 10:28 PM |
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So far I am only getting answers that suggest that what I am experiencing is either "normal" or just because of me being an INTP. Nonetheless... I am sad. Perhaps instead of asking exactly what it "is" I am experiencing, does anyone have any advice on how to stop feeling this way? I get that time will heal but I don't have any motivation to do anything in my life at this moment. Its on my mind constantly and I am unable to stop thinking about it. I am unfocused and rather touchy and emotional which is unlike me. So what to do? I really feel lost on this... |
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Sharon Vineyard  MBTI: INTP Age/Sex: Gender Neutral Relationship: Single IM:
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| 12 Oct 2011 12:24 AM |
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I'm sorry to make this thread but I have thought of a different way of looking at things. Since this isn't the first time I felt like this perhaps the truth is I mean nothing to people. I can't see it any other way. I just am not important enough perhaps? I am too "weird" to understand. It may seem stupid but all I really want is to be accepted by someone unconditionally, that is all. This person I described before, made me feel that way for a time but it was just an illusion. In reality, they were happy with their other and I am really nothing to them as it was for my first "crush" who actually said that they "love" me but then told me later that very week that they were with someone else. So yes, just step on what little feelings and pride I had, that was back in High School so perhaps they were immature but nonetheless it showed me that I really am nothing to people. Now am I blowing this out of proportion? Possibly... Am I wrong? Possibly... For now though I can't see this any other way. I thank those who responded to this thread for at least trying to help me but I see that is useless, I really am nothing, that is the only truth... |
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AnnaK  MBTI: XNFP Age/Sex: Middle aged Female Relationship: Single IM:
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| 12 Oct 2011 05:05 AM |
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Sharon, you're not nothing!! If someone toyed with your feelings and told you they loved you, led you on basically, when they were not available, that means they're mean. |
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Sharon Vineyard  MBTI: INTP Age/Sex: Gender Neutral Relationship: Single IM:
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| 12 Oct 2011 10:00 AM |
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Posted By AnnaK on 12 Oct 2011 04:05 AM
Sharon, you're not nothing!! If someone toyed with your feelings and told you they loved you, led you on basically, when they were not available, that means they're mean.
Buy why though? Just because they are "mean" isn't good enough. There has to be something wrong with me, anything. I meant nothing to them and I mean nothing to the current crush I have. Hell, I probably mean nothing to you. I don't see it any other way. |
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alysaria  MBTI: ENFP Age/Sex: Relationship: IM: Empress of Random Founding Member
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| 12 Oct 2011 10:55 AM |
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While it's completely possible to find someone to love you unconditionally and value you the way that you want and need, it's not a good idea to give your heart away so readily. Trust has to be earned. Objectively, I'd say you may want to try to isolate and dissect just what it is that attracted you to these two in particular. Did they share any mannerisms? Expressions? Ways of speaking? Clothing style? Physical characteristics? If you can figure that out, then it might help you in the future to logically acknowledge the connection without allowing your emotions to get out of hand. Also, if it has to do with characteristics that you may find attractive, then you might be able to determine some of the attributes you are looking for in a mate.  Not that love is the least bit clinical or rational, but if there is some logical reason behind it that you just aren't aware of yet....it could help to discover what exactly that is. |
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Stripes  MBTI: intj Age/Sex: M Relationship: IM:
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| 12 Oct 2011 12:11 PM |
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I will go with the latter option

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Sharon Vineyard  MBTI: INTP Age/Sex: Gender Neutral Relationship: Single IM:
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| 12 Oct 2011 12:16 PM |
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Posted By Stripes on 12 Oct 2011 11:11 AM
I will go with the latter option

Thanks for being the first person to actually answer my original question. lol |
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alysaria  MBTI: ENFP Age/Sex: Relationship: IM: Empress of Random Founding Member
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| 12 Oct 2011 12:29 PM |
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Well you *did* ask ENFPs for a direct answer. XD That's silly. |
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alysaria  MBTI: ENFP Age/Sex: Relationship: IM: Empress of Random Founding Member
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| 12 Oct 2011 12:33 PM |
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I went over to personalitycafe to see if any of the INTPs there had any similar stories (that is, falling in love on sight without really knowing why). A couple just said yes....one gave me his story. Originally Posted by Ac1992 Yes. And it sucked. Till this day I still think about that girl I saw hahahahahahaha. Not a lot but maybe once in a while when the topic of women/sex/love comes up among peers. Anyways, I was once shopping for clothes and I see from far away this beautiful biracial girl (i think she was half black half white) with the most striking blue eyes I've ever seen. I swear to God the moment I laid eyes on this girl I was in love. So as I enter the store shes leaving and we make eye contact. I open the door for her and tell her "Go ahead Miss". She smiles and says "thank you". She open her mouth once again like if she wanted to strike up a conversation, but at this point I'm having social anxiety (who knows if she would be interested in a white mexican haha) because this woman was BEAUTIFUL PERFECT 10 in my eyes, so I just walk ahead. WORST DECISION EVER. I thought about following her and asking for her number but I think that would've freaked her out. |
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Sharon Vineyard  MBTI: INTP Age/Sex: Gender Neutral Relationship: Single IM:
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| 12 Oct 2011 01:00 PM |
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Posted By alysaria on 12 Oct 2011 11:33 AM
I went over to personalitycafe to see if any of the INTPs there had any similar stories (that is, falling in love on sight without really knowing why). A couple just said yes....one gave me his story.
Originally Posted by Ac1992
Yes. And it sucked. Till this day I still think about that girl I saw hahahahahahaha. Not a lot but maybe once in a while when the topic of women/sex/love comes up among peers.
Anyways, I was once shopping for clothes and I see from far away this beautiful biracial girl (i think she was half black half white) with the most striking blue eyes I've ever seen. I swear to God the moment I laid eyes on this girl I was in love. So as I enter the store shes leaving and we make eye contact. I open the door for her and tell her "Go ahead Miss". She smiles and says "thank you". She open her mouth once again like if she wanted to strike up a conversation, but at this point I'm having social anxiety (who knows if she would be interested in a white mexican haha) because this woman was BEAUTIFUL PERFECT 10 in my eyes, so I just walk ahead. WORST DECISION EVER. I thought about following her and asking for her number but I think that would've freaked her out.
Thanks for the input also, I don't mean to just "ask" ENFPs. All types are allowed to answer and I don't like the idea of "typism" where it is said that its because one is an ENFP is why they don't give straight forward answer. Its more of just who the individual is.
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PurpleGiraffe  MBTI: INTJ Age/Sex: 28/F Relationship: Jirafa sola IM:
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| 12 Oct 2011 01:19 PM |
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I don't think you are either heartbroken or over-dramatic, really. I think you are probably mostly disappointed. You saw potential, but that was pulled away, and you are feeling the sting of losing control. Some person took away your own control to be happy. I know it sucks. It hurts, and I'm sorry.
I'm sorry to make this thread but I have thought of a different way of looking at things. Since this isn't the first time I felt like this perhaps the truth is I mean nothing to people. I can't see it any other way. I just am not important enough perhaps? I am too "weird" to understand. It may seem stupid but all I really want is to be accepted by someone unconditionally, that is all.
The thing I've learned as I've gotten older (and you don't necessarily have to agree and maybe it's cheesy...) is that it's not the amount that you are loved but the amount that you love that is important because it's easy to think "Oh, nobody wants me!" but if you were able to step outside yourself and watch your life, I'm sure you will find that several people really do care about you (some of whom you might not even realize,) and you can't control who they are how much they do, but you can control your own feelings towards all of them.
I mean, you can't change or control the fact that your crush is seeing someone else. All you can control is your self and your own attempts at making yourself happy. I know what it's like to not want to do anything or to overdo things to keep oneself happy, but neither of these really helps. You just have to feel the pain very briefly, let it wash over you, and then say, "Fine, that's all the power I'm going to let you have. Now, I'm gonna go [insert something new you have wanted to try.]"
I hope things get better for you.
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Sharon Vineyard  MBTI: INTP Age/Sex: Gender Neutral Relationship: Single IM:
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| 12 Oct 2011 02:01 PM |
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Posted By PurpleGiraffe on 12 Oct 2011 12:19 PM
I don't think you are either heartbroken or over-dramatic, really. I think you are probably mostly disappointed. You saw potential, but that was pulled away, and you are feeling the sting of losing control. Some person took away your own control to be happy. I know it sucks. It hurts, and I'm sorry.
I'm sorry to make this thread but I have thought of a different way of looking at things. Since this isn't the first time I felt like this perhaps the truth is I mean nothing to people. I can't see it any other way. I just am not important enough perhaps? I am too "weird" to understand. It may seem stupid but all I really want is to be accepted by someone unconditionally, that is all.
The thing I've learned as I've gotten older (and you don't necessarily have to agree and maybe it's cheesy...) is that it's not the amount that you are loved but the amount that you love that is important because it's easy to think "Oh, nobody wants me!" but if you were able to step outside yourself and watch your life, I'm sure you will find that several people really do care about you (some of whom you might not even realize,) and you can't control who they are how much they do, but you can control your own feelings towards all of them.
I mean, you can't change or control the fact that your crush is seeing someone else. All you can control is your self and your own attempts at making yourself happy. I know what it's like to not want to do anything or to overdo things to keep oneself happy, but neither of these really helps. You just have to feel the pain very briefly, let it wash over you, and then say, "Fine, that's all the power I'm going to let you have. Now, I'm gonna go [insert something new you have wanted to try.]"
I hope things get better for you.
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alysaria  MBTI: ENFP Age/Sex: Relationship: IM: Empress of Random Founding Member
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| 12 Oct 2011 03:45 PM |
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I'm the last person to jump on the "ALL THE PEOPLE OF THIS TYPE ARE LIKE THIS" bandwagon. There are tendencies....and most of the time, I make a speculation and based on the results of my hypothesis (which is ever changing, mind you), I adapt my results. But one thing that is pretty common to ENFPs is tangents. >.> |
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Sharon Vineyard  MBTI: INTP Age/Sex: Gender Neutral Relationship: Single IM:
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| 13 Oct 2011 07:45 AM |
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Posted By alysaria on 12 Oct 2011 02:45 PM
I'm the last person to jump on the "ALL THE PEOPLE OF THIS TYPE ARE LIKE THIS" bandwagon. There are tendencies....and most of the time, I make a speculation and based on the results of my hypothesis (which is ever changing, mind you), I adapt my results. But one thing that is pretty common to ENFPs is tangents. >.>
Not in this thread you're not. You jumped right on. Just messing with you. :p Also I thought I would just say that I feel that I am over it mainly so yeah anyone is free to post here but I am not seeking anymore advice. Thanks for the time people. 
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alysaria  MBTI: ENFP Age/Sex: Relationship: IM: Empress of Random Founding Member
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| 14 Oct 2011 04:03 PM |
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(I know you were teasing, but I was struck by a thought that I felt like posting....because sometimes I feel like typing in a pretentious accent) How do you define something? A creature chewing grass on a hill..... I could give you enough relative descriptors that you might eventually figure it out, or I could say "cow." Stereo typically, it's black and white....that's a simple, childlike way of drawing the animal in order to clearly convey the idea of cow. Does that mean all cows are black and white? Of course not. But does that mean that the attributes of a cow are stereotypical if they *are* universal (for the most part - for the purpose of this analogy we can discount weird birth defects, accidents, or bovine surgery). A cow moos. A cow has an udder, horns, and a tail. A cow has 4 cloven hooves. It's a pretty basic description, but as accurate you can get with what you observe. A cow may have multiple stomachs and it might have edible meat, but that's based on knowledge and not observation of said grazing creature. If an item defies definition, then it needs no label. If all cloven animals were just defined as cloven animals, then the concept of cow would serve no purpose. While personality types are not absolutes....they are a smaller label of a larger whole. A stereotype is to take a characteristic that defines a single person or a handful of people within the group and universalize it without any real research or evidence that it is indeed a recurring trait. The cows in one county may all be black an white, but it's a false statement to call all cows black and white based on the limited experience of only ever seeing cows in that county. However, it would be true to say that all cows have udders and are capable of producing milk. At face value it only looks like the statements are valid or fallible, and that's true objectively.....but whether the information is correct, to simply observe one herd of cattle or one small portion of a larger group and make a round statement about it is wrong and a terrible scientific method. Yet, without any observation at all as to the nature of a cow, there would be no clear designation. But if there are defining attributes, it seems to call for a label...or a name if you'd rather. Psychology is more difficult to observe the same way, which is why it requires constant analysis to really define the nature of a type. Thus: Hypothesize, test, confirm or deny....repeat many, many, many, many, many, many times. Which brings me back to statements about type. Most are observed, hypothesized, and tested....and in fact each post restating the information is a hypothesis in and of itself, open to a response from a knowledgeable source (IE: someone of that personality type). Even with myself as a good basis for starting out on a diagram of "ENFP", I can't make judgements about the whole group based on things that could very well be biased by my personal experiences, other psychological variables (enneagram, personality disorders, stress), age/maturity level, or any other factors that could skew the results. Once all of the information refined and purified to its most basic elements....ENFPs go on tangents. |
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