1) Why? I've never met an intj who didn't know exactly why they did a certain action - so why are you guys here?

People who self type themselves INTJ are typically either INTJ or ISTJ with a smattering of IxTPs to boot.  People who self type themselves as ENFP are typically either ENFP or ESFP with a smattering of ExFJs to boot - There are some good reasons for this, but either way they are typing behaviourally rather than cognitively.

People who have diametrically opposed behavioural styles get a lot of high value interaction from their opposites.  There is a lot to learn so there is a lot of low lying fruit from even the most trivial interactions.

2) what exactly are you guys "intuitive" about? do you intuit other's emotions like we (enfp) do?

This viewpoint is a 'scratched surface' interpretation.  The IJ group are all strategistically focused and are into moving the position of the problem to solve it.  The INTJ group by contrast is particularly focused on playing with the consequences of ideas and how they evolve through time to a point at which this is as natural as 'intuiting emotions'.

Again a simplification, but hopefully it offers some understanding.

3) how emotionally aware are you really? i suspect that it's more than you let on - all the intj's i know are secret sentimentalists.

Very, but we tend to be emotionally closed.  I don't intrinsically believe that any extrovert or introvert is more emotionally aware/empathic, for which I have a few reasons.  The INTJ being reserved and concise is quite observant of their environment.  There are some underlying reasons for this including a hyper-sensitivity to sensory information changes that is a consequence of opposition to the method of 'intuiting' as above.

4) would you agree that interfacing with an enfp attracts you because we are like a sort of puzzle to you?

Not really, the ENFP I'm seeing, much like my ENFP exes in the past attracts me because they help me to forget my own puzzles and relax.

As an ENFP friend says to me: You guys really just like having us around.

The opposite is reported to be true, i.e. the ENFP seems to consider the INTJ an attractive puzzle.

5) is it true that if an intj let's you get close that you need not talk too much about it, because "geez, i let you in that should be proof enough that i enjoy you"

Conciseness is close to godliness: Yes.

@DelphineanEtude -" I don't want to say that I don't care about other people's feelings, but they are usually near the bottom on my list of importance. I act like I care through routine, forced small-talk maneuvers I've developed over the years" I'm curious about this statement - doesn't this make you lonely sometimes? why are the feelings of others near the bottom? does this hold true in your relationships as well?

This question is simpler than it looks:

If you have a fundamental belief that everyone is the master of their own destiny you know it is irrelvant to attempt to manage other peoples emotional responses.  If you can manage your own this is to your benefit.  However if your emotional responses are in sync then you have synergy.  An artificially managed responses which you manipulate someone into having has no value.

In relationships this can be even more important.  You express how you are feeling and expect a counter reaction to that which is honest and direct.

Loneliness is not really a problem because there is always something important to do.

Posted By Moxie on 16 Jan 2012 04:47 PM
 would you say that Fi is your most dominant "non-dominant" function? what strategies do you use to develop it?

Development is a falsitude in cognitive functioning.  When one looks into the self and drops external expectations and allows a natural balance to be reached then you see natural preferences emerge.  Cognitive functions are not muscles!

Posted By Moxie on 19 Jan 2012 07:54 PM
LOL. see how good us ENFP's are in setting the conversational direction? We saw the underlying feeling question behind Betsy and honed in on it. Betsy is somewhat of an allegory for how INTJ's operate, thus the interest.

There is a reason Lenore describes ENFPs as activators and INTJs as chart the course type individuals.

The ENFP says 'I want to go to Italy' the INTJ checks the compass and sets the direction to Italy.

Posted By Moxie on 22 Jan 2012 01:19 AM

right?

Haha, yeah sort of.. 

 Hi.

1) To talk to ENFPs. Maybe make some friends.

2) I have heard that INTJs are very good at empathy when they care about someone else. Personally I know that I am very careful about upsetting the people I care about because I can easily imagine what something might make them feel like. As a result it is very very rare that someone important to me is mad or sad because of me. Im not sure if that is intuition or emotional inteligence with extroverted thinking though. 

3) as far as awareness goes, sure I know what I am feeling when I feel it; even the more confusing emotions I can sum up. But much of my day I spend interacting with people that I do not engage with emotionally. So most of my day is spent not really feeling many emotions.

4) No. I just find the interaction to be enjoyable, and I dont find ENFPs (or any type) to be hard to understand.

5) This question seems to be asking and implying a few different things. If I let someone get close I dont mind them needing confirmation of our closeness.. "Would you say we are close?" "..Ya, I would say so."

but the "geez, i let you in that should be proof enough that i enjoy you" brings to mind two possibly negative things.

1. The ENFP might be lacking confidence in the mutual closeness of the relationship despite that closeness being shown or expressed.

2. The INTJ might not be conveying/reciprocating the closeness or confirmation of it in a way that the other party can recieve.

Both of these are simple communication issues, but should really be addressed. 

  First Hi Everyone!

 Im new to this forum and I stumbled across this thread while looking for more information on my MBTI (ENFP) and my long time boyfriends MBTI (INTJ) and their compatibility. So far Ive read that we are supposed to be highly compatible. My hope is that an INTJ might be able to help me figure out more on how to better work with my INTJ...thats not to say we dont work well now but at times it would be nice to get some insight on how to better incorporate his personality into our daily lives...seeing as how he generally just allows me to do as i want and goes behind me to ensure that im not causing trouble or forgetting something . I would like to know about something that INTJ's like to do? Something that draws on his INTJ personality? He loves puzzels and strategies but i can hardly sit through with him. I dont know im just putting the question out there...what is something that you all like to do? =)

Posted By CherryBomb on 18 Apr 2012 03:45 PM

 My hope is that an INTJ might be able to help me figure out more on how to better work with my INTJ...

By all means enquire here, but you will get an overwhelming response from http://intjforum.com/

 Sorry i wasnt trying to create any problems...but once again i would appreciate any answer i wasnt just trying to talk to INTJ's but also to inquire about ENFP-INTJ relations and expeirience from other ENFP's who might have more insight  =X

Posted By PurpleGiraffe on 19 Apr 2012 09:40 PM
Fair enough, but is there really one "most authoritative" source for INTJs, Incrediblemind? This forum is teeming with our kind. Besides, you wouldn't frequent Pizza Hut and then when someone walks in and asks you what pizza is good you tell them Dominoes next door has the best veggie pizza. Well, you might, but it would seem silly not to realize why the Pizza Hut owner wouldn't particularly like this, no?

There is no one authorative source for any 'thing'.  The Internet and indeed society is a place of mulitple truths - the more we collect, the more we are able to form our own opinion - it's about being enabled.

I make no "promotion" of it.  It is a reference, and members will use as they see fit, or not.

Irritatingly, INTJ do not utter random facts(sic) just to irritate - they only speak to concisely address the issue.  People will use as they see fit, and no malice is ever intended.  Search yourself and you will know this.  Even ENFPGuys' signature states it.

If feelings were hurt then I apologise, but I do not retract.