Teal  MBTI: INTP Age/Sex: 26/chick Relationship: IM:
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| 22 Feb 2010 12:15 AM |
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I think I need a bit of help. I’ve started dating an
ENFP and he’s brilliant. I really am infatuated with him. But
dear god! I just don’t know what to do sometimes. I feel like I need some kind
of cheat-sheet because it’s just so much.
He’s always asking me what I’m feeling and thinking 'right now'. How should
I even answer anything like that? I just freeze up trying to come up with an answer. Are there some automatic responses ENFPs like
to hear? I’ve told him before that I am just not capable of expressing myself
in that way and he seems a bit hurt, as if I’m holding back (and what's wrong with holding back, by the way?). And am I supposed to be asking those questions back? Because that would never occur to me in any normal kind of conversation.
Additionally, I
find it confusing that he has this amazing clarity of thought and wonderful
sensibilities in just about every aspect, while on the other hand, he talks
of us as souls mates and spending a lifetime together when we’ve only
been dating a few (intense) weeks. I just smile and nod as I’m not easily
frightened by such talk, but isn’t he setting himself up to be hurt? Do ENFPs
always act so vulnerably or is he just trying to impress me in some way? (the latter
would almost be a comfort).
Furthermore, is it typical for an ENFP to work so hard to seem
impressive? I found him impressive to start with, he is quite an impressive
guy, and an amazing person. But he
still puts on such a show, and all his efforts to make me see how impressive he
is are a huge turn-off (I've always hated the pretty girl/rich guy game in all of its variations) and I don’t know how to tell him that he can just
relax, because I don’t want to seem mean. Any tips there?
Oh! and while I find
the whole ‘we are all interconnected’ thing cute, it seems he really wants me
to agree with him. If I just pretend to go along with it (it seems a silly
topic for discussion as it’s so vague and subjective) do you think he’ll notice?
I just want him to relax, and I want to be
able to fulfill his touchy-feely needs as the relationship progresses but I just cannot
match his level of intensity forever without burning out, and I was wondering if there
were any suggestions on how I could wade through some of this stuff. |
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TheJan  MBTI: COOL Age/Sex: 22/m Relationship: Wouldn't you like to know... IM:
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| 22 Feb 2010 03:00 AM |
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He’s always asking me what I’m feeling and thinking 'right now'. How should I even answer anything like that? I just freeze up trying to come up with an answer. Are there some automatic responses ENFPs like to hear? I’ve told him before that I am just not capable of expressing myself in that way and he seems a bit hurt, as if I’m holding back (and what's wrong with holding back, by the way?). And am I supposed to be asking those questions back? Because that would never occur to me in any normal kind of conversation.
He cares for you and trusts you, I'd say. Thinghs that might go around his head may be: "I told her how i feel, why can't she tell me too?" (I believe he is telling you it?) or maybe he even thinks it's a bit unfair that you don't tell him how you feel when he is so open about his feelings (I suppose he is open about his feelings)
An 'automated response' would not be something he would like, i believe (We don't like fakeness very much). I know... you are an INTP with Ti Ne Si Fe... expressing your feelings is difficult for you. I'd say, be as honest as you can be about your thoughts and feelings and that has to suffice. If you're being honest, he will see you are trying to give something to the relationship too. We appreciate honesty, generally speaking.
If my girlfriend would be behaving like that (always asking how i feel), and i was in your position, having problems expressing my emotions, i'd probably do the following: Tell her that it is difficult for me to express what i am feeling, but also tell her that i like her the way she is and that i also want her to like me the way i am.
Then again, i am a guy, and maybe you should ask a woman about something like that 
Another question: How old is he? Also, you are sure he is an ENFP? |
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Zsych  MBTI: xNTx Age/Sex: 28/M/Austin Relationship: IM:
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| 22 Feb 2010 09:17 AM |
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@Teal: What qualities exactly, as as INTP, are you finding impressive? |
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Teal  MBTI: INTP Age/Sex: 26/chick Relationship: IM:
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| 22 Feb 2010 09:49 AM |
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@TheJan: Thank you for the advice, I suppose he is rather open with his feelings, and I can see where sometimes things may seem one-sided. He is 37 and I am very sure he is an ENFP. He is able to put on a 'T-hat' for work, but he is sooo not an ENTP. In fact, some of the things he says and thinks are almost word-for-word out of the ENFP literature (which is a little funny).
@Zsych: He is very smart, he's invented several things and has taken it forward to the point to where he sells them internationally (high-techy stuff). He is generous and has a leadership role with several charities and schools (internationally as well as local). He is very well rounded in his education, and can speak several languages. He is always learning and designing things, and his mind never slows down. Also, he is rather attentive which is amazing for someone so busy. He will go out of his way to make time for me. Further, he is just such a happy person, so carefree, spontaneous, not bossy or controlling at all, but for some reason I just want to follow him along like a lost little puppy. |
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Zsych  MBTI: xNTx Age/Sex: 28/M/Austin Relationship: IM:
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| 22 Feb 2010 11:11 AM |
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Well, I can't object to the worth of an inventor Relax and recognize your own worth - and you'll be able to handle him better. |
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cryptonia  MBTI: INTP Age/Sex: 21 Relationship: IM: INTP Founding Member
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| 22 Feb 2010 04:48 PM |
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So... yeah, I'm no ENFP (as you can probably see), but I can also easily see how ENFPs can be overwhelming after a while. I also haaaate being put on the spot like that ("what are you feeling right now!?"), but, at least in my dealings with ENFPs: your strongest/most attractive quality is your honesty. I very much doubt that there's any automatic response he's looking to hear.
I'm not sure how to get one to see that they don't have to put on such a show around you.... but at least it's been my experience that they will start dropping it over time. I'm trying to think... because I don't know any ENFP girls, I've only got normal guy-friends (/my brother) to go off of, but they seem to be pulled in lots of different directions, all the time; he's probably feeling pulled to entertain you so you have a good time, but also pulled to find someone who (like you said you want him to) chill out and stop 'entertaining' so much. To be honest, I think over time the "I want someone who understands me well enough that I can chill out around" will win out in the end, because even ENFPs don't have unlimited energy. Getting that point across gently, though, is... difficult. It's a delicate situation, because you might hurt him if he's putting out the effort to entertain you, and you aren't at least appreciative of his efforts (even if you don't like the energy). So I'm not sure exactly how you could "actively" do it... but I think you can probably speed up the chilling-out process by showing interest in things that secretly matter to him personally, but that he doesn't expect other people to appreciate. You're an INTx... you probably have a powerful brain... put it to use by trying to learn what he really wants, rather than what he just seems to want. And whenever you're unsure, simply ask. He'd probably also appreciate it if you said "sometimes you seem to want this, like back when you did [whatever], but in this other situation, you seemed to want [contradictory thing]. Am I missing something that made the difference to you between those?" or things like that.
This sounds unrelated... but to be honest, I don't think it is. I think that he'd likely note that you care more about how he feels in different situations than you do about all his efforts to entertain you--but he won't be personally hurt by it, because you're still showing interest in him as a person (like distracting someone with a shiny object ).
That's at least my best largely-theoretical answer for you. Again, I don't know any ENFP girls, but it's my best guess based on the guys that I interact with so often. |
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sbalbom  MBTI: ENFP Age/Sex: 28/M/Dallas Relationship: Single IM: (AOL)-lordxred Post us to Facebook Make a video about us! ENFP
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| 22 Feb 2010 11:42 PM |
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Well the need to impress others comes from a need to be wanted, liked and insecurities. Make sure you tell him the truth: " I am a rare girl. Most girls aren't like me. Its hard for me to do the emotional stuff like other softy girls. I like you. You are amazing and I am impressed with you etc. Be upfront, but nice how you be upfront and he'll understand." |
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Teal  MBTI: INTP Age/Sex: 26/chick Relationship: IM:
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| 22 Feb 2010 11:46 PM |
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Thanks! yeah, I've noticed he seems amazed by honesty.. as if its some novel thing that I invented. |
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sbalbom  MBTI: ENFP Age/Sex: 28/M/Dallas Relationship: Single IM: (AOL)-lordxred Post us to Facebook Make a video about us! ENFP
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| 23 Feb 2010 07:30 PM |
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Remember to sub-communicate with body language. |
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electriclady  MBTI: ENFP Age/Sex: Level 2 Relationship: IM: Posts:80

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| 24 Feb 2010 11:05 AM |
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Teal, just be honest and open. Let loose a little bit and enjoy each others' company. Actions speak louder than words anyway. If you feel comfortable with him, it'll show in your body language and overall disposition. Don't overextend yourself in a way that is not true to yourself. Hope that helps.  |
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Teal  MBTI: INTP Age/Sex: 26/chick Relationship: IM:
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| 27 Feb 2010 01:09 PM |
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Thanks guys for all of your help! |
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starbubo  MBTI: Age/Sex: Relationship: IM:
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| 18 Feb 2011 08:34 PM |
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It's been 8 years, I will solve this I just need more time.
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Trance City  MBTI: INTJ Age/Sex: 21 Relationship: Single and staying that way. IM:
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| 18 Feb 2011 08:39 PM |
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Haaa... ENFPs aren't quite that scary. |
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starbubo  MBTI: Age/Sex: Relationship: IM:
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| 18 Feb 2011 08:49 PM |
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A little bit of truth and a whole lot of humour..
If only she made sense!  |
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Trance City  MBTI: INTJ Age/Sex: 21 Relationship: Single and staying that way. IM:
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| 18 Feb 2011 08:51 PM |
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Need a friend? |
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starbubo  MBTI: Age/Sex: Relationship: IM:
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| 18 Feb 2011 08:58 PM |
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Working out our MBTI's has been a great help we are more at ease with each other. |
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starbubo  MBTI: Age/Sex: Relationship: IM:
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| 18 Feb 2011 09:25 PM |
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We are getting there. Our interests , cultural bond and our love for each other, has got us through the confusion and all that can arise as a result of that..
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AnnaK  MBTI: XNFP Age/Sex: Middle aged Female Relationship: Single IM:
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| 19 Feb 2011 04:48 AM |
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I believe in soul mates. I also believe it's possible to have more than one soul mate. I believe in reincarnation, and to me a soul mate is basically someone you have had a lot of past life experiences with. It explains why you just connect with some people, for no real reason. I also think you could be really hurt by soul mates or have horrible relationships with them, if that is something that might help you grow, or if something goes wrong. |
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freeeekyyy  MBTI: INTJ Age/Sex: 26/M Relationship: IM:
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| 19 Feb 2011 01:05 PM |
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Posted By Trance City on 18 Feb 2011 07:39 PM
Haaa... ENFPs aren't quite that scary.
Hehe. I have a feeling they're probably a bit scarier to INTPs than they are to most INTJs...I know that ENFJs scare the crap out of me, though. |
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Trance City  MBTI: INTJ Age/Sex: 21 Relationship: Single and staying that way. IM:
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| 19 Feb 2011 01:12 PM |
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Hehe. I have a feeling they're probably a bit scarier to INTPs than they are to most INTJs... I would say that's very true, lol. I know that ENFJs scare the crap out of me, though. They scare the living daylights out of me as well. I'm not quite sure how to react to them. When in doubt, don't do a damn thing... just blankly stare. |
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