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06 Jan 2011 02:01 PM  

Really....I didn't know Wolfram was so useful. Maybe it's because the kids who would use Wolfram to cheat don't know it exists? Most of the high schoolers I know are either too lazy or too stupid (isn't that the same?) to even qualify for a basic calc class, and the ones that are gifted enough are still too lazy to do the work anyway. Plus, many of my college peers complain calc I and II are the most difficult classes in their curriculum (a laughable notion). People bring me problems on occasion that have subtle tricks that I don't think would show up in a wolfram search.

Ever since I got the hang of algebra, I've adored math, but I'm INTJ. Maybe that's why I'm in biophysics. On the other hand, I've always found artistic ventures to be pretty awesome, regardless of the fact that I can't stay focused on any particular discipline. They're all too interesting.

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07 Jan 2011 08:13 PM  
B-but calculus isn't just about getting the homework right. D: Wolfram Alpha is useful for checking, but I'm not sure if it can teach you the concept. xD

My teacher tried to teach all concept, which was okay, but impractical, since we still needed practice. She'd throw in something new on the test and claim that if we knew the concept, we'd do fine--except she didn't tell us what the rules were against it, and why it wasn't so...but eh, I was forced to do calculus for two hours every weekend, so I managed to get the hang of it.

Then again, my love for calculus is probably influenced by humans' love of the familiar--as someone who tutors in it, I'm more comfortable with it, and am enamored of that exhilarating clarity of understanding.
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09 Jan 2011 05:03 AM  
Of course it doesn't help you on tests or understanding the subject, but getting the homework right used to be a big deal. Now it's been devalued...[sob...sniff]

Then again, my love for calculus is probably influenced by humans' love of the familiar--as someone who tutors in it, I'm more comfortable with it, and am enamored of that exhilarating clarity of understanding.


Just curious...what are you majoring in/going to major in/majored in?

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09 Jan 2011 05:13 PM  
Absolutely no idea. xD I'm interested in psychology, creative writing, computer science...maybe a minor in music. Or maybe education. I really have no clue. xD Pourquoi?
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09 Jan 2011 10:51 PM  
I'm just curious if the choices a math-proficient ENFP would make are much different than a non-math-proficient. Apparently not.

Although if one wants to get a Ph.D. in Psychology math is de riguer (esp. statistics.)

And these days computer science is very much an ENFP-type field in many respects (creating user-friendly applications and services that the public will adopt -- it is very much applied psychology.)
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09 Jan 2011 11:03 PM  
I think if I had chosen the math/science department of my school, I'd be more interested in math, since I'm not so good at science. I dunno, though. xD I'd probably always be interested in people. I did a psych study and had no training in stats, so I did this roundabout math thing--it worked, but exhausted me because I reworked it three times. x.x It cooled my enthusiasm for psychology.

And yesss, that's partly why I really like computer science--there are so many applications I want to create or improve, but I don't yet have the necessary tools/knowledge. xD
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12 Jan 2011 11:39 PM  
maths.. blah >_< horrible dry subject. I did well in geometry but still hated it

even chemistry is more appealing lol
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26 Feb 2011 06:31 PM  

 

I think if I had chosen the math/science department of my school, I'd be more interested in math, since I'm not so good at science. I dunno, though. xD I'd probably always be interested in people. I did a psych study and had no training in stats, so I did this roundabout math thing--it worked, but exhausted me because I reworked it three times. x.x It cooled my enthusiasm for psychology. 

And yesss, that's partly why I really like computer science--there are so many applications I want to create or improve, but I don't yet have the necessary tools/knowledge. xD


Hah I feel the same way minus the science part. I love science in general though I wouldn't want to work in it... I would rather read about the findings then sit there putting rats on hotplates all day long and entering the results in a log. I'm almost done with my second degree in IT/Coding. I really like writing code but don't like learning how to do so. Writing code is fun and exciting because there are so many possibilities. It feels amazing when you get to create a machine right out of your head... and it actually works! Pure imagination and thought translated into reality right in front of your eyes!

How could I possibly choose one "signature" statement? I would have to constantly update this space and that sounds like an awful lot of work though it does seem like a good place to make a statement about this or that... Let me think about it :D
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05 Mar 2011 04:55 PM  
Like Candy I did well in Geometry, I think because it was largely visual and I could figure things out using spatial reasoning even if I'd forgotten some of the equations, just by knowing the basics. Like others have said I would make up my own roundabout or unique ways of doing things. I was mediocre at algebra, statistics and so forth and found them incredibly boring but have always excelled in writing and languages and other right-brain subjects. The thing about math and ENFPs is that math is all about the details...bloody details...
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06 Mar 2011 10:37 PM  
I had really bad ADD as a child. When not taking my medication, I couldn't focus enough on math to enjoy it. When I did take my medication though, there wasn't much I'd rather be doing.
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31 May 2011 11:40 PM  
I used to get yelled at by my maths teacher for writing short stories when I should have been doing algebra or geometry or other dismal things. I can do primary school maths, and fractions, but anything more than that - urgh. In my last year at school, most of the brightest kids were clever enough to get out of maths, and did comparative religion instead. Every time I think of this, I can kick myself!
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01 Jun 2011 03:10 PM  

I love binary logic.

Define (0,1) = B

Define unary operation NOT(x) on B as 0>1, 1>0
Define binary operation OR(x,y) on B as 0,0>0, 0,1>1, 1,0>1, 1,1>1
Define binary operation AND(x,y) on B as 0,0>0, 0,1>0, 1,0>0, 1,1>1

 Every other operation there is can be built from these 3 operations... like 

Define binary operation XOR(x,y) on B as 0,0>0; 0,1>1; 1,0>1; 1,1>0; == (x AND NOT y) OR (NOT x AND y)

You wanna add two binary strings together? No problem. You do
out=x XOR y
cout=x AND y

do until (cout==0)
out+1=out XOR cout
cout+1=out AND cout

this is what a computer does. The complexity of an add operation is proportional to the bit string length -> the word size. This is for integers, of course. Floating points are very different. Right now we have 64 bit computers, so the basic word length for an integer is 64 bits.

EDIT: (This is how a computer adds two numbers together, in short)
 

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01 Jun 2011 07:19 PM  
I can't say maths has ever been a struggle. I just understand it.. Other ENFP friends of mine are completely at home with maths. We understand mathematical theory and how to solve equations and use algebra. Calculus was something that after a couple hrs of work actually made sense to me.. I'm glad that the school aspect of my life is over though, because, for as much fun as it was, I can't say I'd ever do it again...
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05 Jun 2011 09:04 PM  
yeah i've always been good at maths, i just find it incredibly boring unless i can connect it to something interesting.

I dont need to use the complicated maths i once learned so i have forgotten it all now. Which is a shame, because i have one mathematical subject i want to do and it means i need to revise my more complex calculus and statistical theory (remember the basics, but buggered if i can remember the complicated stuff). Bleh, i've put it off for about 2 years now...
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