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14 Nov 2009 05:01 PM  

 I have always been terrible at the whole self discipline thing. Every time I sit down to get work specifically school work all the much more interesting things I could be doing start running through my mind. Inevitably I put the book down and start lolly gagging. This is starting to get kind of depressing. If I don't get my grades up I am going to be in huge trouble. Hell I have a hard time doing anything other than lolly gagging it is starting to get depressing it's like nothing is worth while other than lazing around. I have a couple of theories to explain why I do this.

1) I don't like my intellect and try to hide it.

2) I put to much of a high premium of F U N there are other things that are also emotionally rewarding. Like being in "flow." I am irrationally afraid that if I study too much I will loose my sense of fun, or will be unable to have fun. 

On a slightly related not I worry that if a study to much I will loose my imagination.  

3) When I do study I put a whole lot of pressure on myself to get a certain amount done. This takes away a lot of the fun of studying.

4) If it is not thought provoking it is hard for me to focus on it. A lot of work is just busy work.

I haven't found anything thought provoking for a while.     

5) I know a lot of people who study to much, I see them as unimaginative ass kissers.

 

I was taught to learn in such a way designed for sensors that just doesn't work for me. I heard some were that the most successful people know when it's time to work and time to play and can easily switch states of mind. That skill would probably help a lot.

Anybody have any luck on this issue?   

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14 Nov 2009 10:00 PM  

 Noodle,

Reward yourself for studying X amount of time.  

When I worked, I was an accountant.  Kind of boring for an ENFP.  But I was really good at it.  Long before computers when I had to do all the work by hand and then add and subtract numerous numbers (like 100 or more) and the total was $0.00 as it was supposed to be, I'd reward myself.  My usual reward was lingerie.  That way when I was sitting at my desk doing "not fun" numbers, I could at least feel sexy.  LOL!!!

Years later when I was in sales (I wasn't very good at selling accounting software), and I had to dress conservatively (my boss made me), I'd wear garter belts and stockings under my super conservative clothes and just be laughing my ass off in my own head.  

Both of these "tricks" worked for me.  I love rewards.  And I love having a secret that is personal.  LOL!!!  Yes, I'm a bit twisted that way.

So, find something to reward yourself with after you've worked/studied.  Trust me on one point, you'll enjoy your goof off time so much more.  Granted, it does take some discipline to get to that point.  But it does work.

 

 

 

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15 Nov 2009 04:30 PM  

Hehe - sounds fun. Not sure if I should try it though - I think my mother might be rather surprised to walk into my room and find me wearing lingerie while I study!


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01 Jan 2010 01:18 AM  
Hi, Noodle,

Good questions! First--and I really need to put this out there--studying will NOT stunt your imagination and turn you into a boring, no-fun book-worm! In fact, studying the right things (and with the right people!) will likely make you more imaginative and more interesting. As an ENFP, I thrive on experience and connection, and consider studying to be one way to broaden my experience of the world by "conversing" with others and connecting to people through time, space, and culture through their works. This way of framing it makes sense to my ENFP self.

I don't know about advice, but here are some questions for you: 1) Is it possible for you to study with others? If you could integrate your personality traits and preferences (e.g., social interaction) into your study routine, I'm sure it would make studying more enjoyable AND productive; and 2) How much choice do you have over what you're studying? Are you taking classes to fulfill specific requirements? Can you choose to take other, more interesting courses? (and if not, why the heck not?)

Here's one of my struggles: when I'm working on task A, I'd rather be working on tasks B, C, or D. And then, when I do get around to doing B, C, or D, I find that I'd rather be doing A! So for me, it's not that I'd rather be doing "something fun"--because A, B, C, D are all fun in their own ways--it's just that I'd rather be doing something ELSE. I guess it's a problem with commitment and follow-through. And I don't really know why this "juggling" is so difficult to reign in or why it happens so frequently. Maybe it's just an ENFP thing? The thing is, it wouldn't really be a problem if it weren't for external deadlines. If I could call all the shots and make the decisions about when things need to be completed, then... well, then I probably would never get anything done! I can picture it now, I'd just circle round and round, dabbling a little here, digging around a little there, always looking for the next "new" thing... Oh, sweet procrastination!

Any thoughts or comments on this would be great!
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02 Jan 2010 01:14 PM  
Hi Loophiker, Welcome to the forum and thank you for your input. We are glad to have you here!!!

Here's one of my struggles: when I'm working on task A, I'd rather be working on tasks B, C, or D. And then, when I do get around to doing B, C, or D, I find that I'd rather be doing A! So for me, it's not that I'd rather be doing "something fun"--because A, B, C, D are all fun in their own ways--it's just that I'd rather be doing something ELSE. I guess it's a problem with commitment and follow-through.



I found that an ENFP should have 5 things they need to do and spend 20-40min on each per day in no particular order. That way they don't get board or burnt out.

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05 Jan 2010 10:29 PM  
I like the idea of rotating through several tasks, spending some fixed amount of time each day on each task. I've actually tried something like this many times in the past. I'm usually really successful at first, but have a hard time keeping it going. Hmm, maybe I'll start it up again and report on how it's going. It would be nice to identify the circumstances that through me off track and then find ways to work through them to keep the momentum going. And I'm busy enough with several tasks right now that there's no shortage of opportunities for practice!

Will keep you posted...
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12 Jan 2010 02:57 PM  
The ideas above all sound like really good ideas.

I found in college I did well studying for 50 minutes, then getting up and walking around for 10 minutes.

I make a list of things I want to do, and start at the top, with the motto "Prioritize, focus, and follow through".

I remind myself that play is much more satisfying after having gotten work out of the way -- for instance, work 2-4 hours on a day, then take off to have fun.

I hate cleaning off my desk, paying bills, etc, and beat myself up for hating it, so now I limit myself to doing an hour of it. I can live with that, and then I feel good about myself.

Really good topic to post on.
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10 Jul 2010 10:53 PM  

Wow, Kathy! I admire your perseverance. That is something I am really working on day by day. Thanx for your advice, I think this one would really help me to make things easier for me. I had it with my imperseverance and I want to challenge myself on this, I want to see how far I can go. Sometimes to change the world you must be a good example of what you want others to be. I learned from my mistakes of changing too much from job to job... economical set-backs, low salary, no satisfaction of having done something great, not even one thing! I'm working along with my husband an INTJ in our own business and he helps me to stay focused... he's great! Because he wants to do leave a  legacy to our people in Puerto Rico, for the children to improve academically and personally. And that's something really satisfying for me because I have enough money and can be my own boss, and at the same time I am helping others achieve better in their lives. But the planning and organizing is all done by my lovely INTJ, I don't touch that part!

But what surprises me more is that you Kathy, have written at the end of your post...  that what you end up doing is exactly what you wanted. That's what responsibility is all about! And I wrote a poem that says this almost the same way you wrote it! Haha! The only difference is that it was written in spanish... I guess that only a few of the Champions desire to stay grounded for a longer time in a job, from what I'm observing here.

To all of those who wish to get some work done, or stop jumping from place to place. I recommend a partnership with an INTJ, or some other person who likes to do the things you don't like and is brutally honest with you so as to pull you down from the clouds whenever you end up daydreaming or wishing to try the green grass that is right next to the other fence. Also doing hobbies, remaining sober or just refusing something that you really want to have or do but don't really need at all in this present moment right now can help you be patient and take a brake from the boredom too. Like it or not, to really grow up and be really happy you must feel the pain first... to get there, it's just like crossing a river. You can't just jump right through it, you must cross it! And that my friends, takes a lot of courage. But eventually at the end of the day it will all pay off really good!

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26 Sep 2010 11:52 PM  

 I definitely agreed SO much with wanting to do Task B, C, or D while working on A. I reward myself by rotating tasks. For example, I'll work on a scientific paper for X amount of time and then blast music and do the dishes. It works for me pretty well.

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27 Sep 2010 08:39 AM  
Haaaaaaa, it's called developing self-discipline. The bottom line is that if you really want to get something done, you'll get it done. If you couldn't care less about not getting it done, then that's that. *shrugs* >_> next topic?
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27 Nov 2010 07:09 AM  
read a book named "the now habit"

it addresses everything you've mentioned in great detail, and tells you how to fix it quickly + permanently
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13 Dec 2010 01:04 AM  
I notice that I feel like that often. So I, too, have broken down my tasks into smaller chunks and then celebrate it when I complete a task, even if it is just to report to my boss or somehting - WOOHOO! this is completed!

I have also discovered leveraging my time with certain things that I just hate to do - like organizing my desk, paying bills, cleaning house. These are all things that I REALLY like to have done but hate the actual doing of it. I've tasked those things out to other people who are more brilliant at those things AND love to do them. It's not that I can't do them or can't do them well, its just that it does not feel like the best use of my time. This frees me up to focus on the things I love.

I also procrastinate by doing things like writing on this forum
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