I rarely point out inconsistencies in an INTJs argument. And they are sometimes inconsistent. Why do I do that? Because I, as an ENFP, choose to find common ground and IT DOESN"T MATTER. At least not to an ENFP. It's nice for an INTJ to have a mutual concern and priority. The INTJs here prior to your invasion have demonstrated that they can consider an ENFPs emotional perspective before they speak. Not because we're always right emotionally, but because it means something to us. Degrading comments are cheap and lacking in integrity.

Danny, I'm quite certain that Caprice's first post was in full jest. She was joking that virgins wouldn't be found here. They would be found in the ISFJ forum. It is a funny joke, because there is some truth to it. Sometimes Caprice, as she has said previously, will forget to include emoticons but Caprice's humor is pretty consistent and easy to determine if you've been around her long enough, and I'm quite certain that Caprice would back it up saying that she was merely being facetious.

Conversely, I'm also quite certain that lindzmarie was just responding in jest, indicating that ESFPs were better able to be brainwashed.

And Trance City, well...we love Trance City. She was just responding to the portion about "Rogarn's pebbles" and the "that's what she said" joke because she has previously indicated a dislike for sex and sexual topics.

Everyone around here tends to joke quite a bit. Whether we should have done it quite so much in a welcome forum is another matter, but I don't believe anyone meant any harm - just playful banter. It seems to me that Caprice only became more harsh after the comments that seemed to denegrate/attack Lindzmarie personally, because I've been here quite awhile and I've never seen Caprice get upset unless it was in defense of another.
 

We certainly want to welcome all of your crew.  We like having you around, and I personally apologize because we probably should have been more "welcoming" in the "welcome thread" but as Sakari pointed out, we also stick to the notion that one should "not be a jerk."

Tooboku posted playfully in his original post. Caprice was the first to respond. When I read it then and re-read it just now, I choke. I find it, to borrow Caprice's words regarding what she disapproves of, to be "mean spirited".

Tooboku being playful in his first post? Can you not see that it was ambiguous enough to be taken the wrong way and even as offensive? I found it cringe worthy, and I can see by the responses of others, they did as well.

For goodness sake, this is a welcome thread. I think it would have been better for these biting posts from these three posters to have not been posted. Debate about playful jest to collect 90 virgins could have been in a debate thread, not a welcome thread. I hardly believe that tooboku would have responded the way he did had he not had three posters being so "unwelcoming". At least he was still playful; it could have been addressed in kind.

This is where the enlightenment comes in: you know certain posters enough that you don't find sting in their posts, but only humor. I know certain posters enough that I find their humor (and sting IF it is intended). So, perhaps it is a matter of familiarity and getting to know one another.

Having said that, I will say that I have perceived pricks and pokes and prods and stings, for what purpose, I don't know. I have done my best to ignore the slights, but they were felt.

I come back to this being a welcome thread. I do hope tooboku will return and I do hope that we will all have engaging, enlightening, and stimulating conversation with one another, playful jest, too.

Tooboku hasn't done himself many favors in his thread...

It seems to me that some INTJ's have the notion that they can say whatever they think, and because of this documented compatibility between INTJ's and ENFP's, we ENFP's will like everything they say. If these INTJ's want a positive response from ENFP's, they will need to put in some effort. All relationships require effort.

Meh.

If you want me to be completely honest, I didn't even want to join this poorly put together forum. The colour scheme hurts my eyes and overall it looks really incomplete... as if someone just threw it all together last minute, then found some other distraction and never got back to editing the stylesheets.

I'm just here to support my friend who was unfairly banned from another forum. Yes, INTJs have friends. Yes, we have feelings and just because you don't understand them, that doesn't mean they aren't there. We're just looking for a new place where someone who might understand that the title of the thread was a joke about the influx of new members and ergo the content of the first post was some sarcastic remark about what may possibly be going on in the mind of a fanatical invader. I did not know with such a blatantly obvious attempt at humour would be taken so seriously. Not only that, but a "typist" response as well. "Try the ISFJ forum". Seriously. You think that is being sensitive? You ask me to be sensitive to the ENFP's feelings after I've pretty much been rejected yet you make no consideration for the ISFJ. I also find it completely irrational for anyone to be offended after YOU reject someone and they reply with "I didn't want you anyway". Your Fi is just as broken as mine. Your Te is probably non-existant.

As per efforts to mend some sort of relationship here, there was none to begin with except for those between myself and those I knew prior to joining. I don't really care if you like me, but don't fuck around with my friends.

Anyway, you may all rejoice. One more invader has been vanquished. You guys aren't even worth the effort to login.

I did not intend to post in this thread again, but I have decided to do just that.

When tooboku arrived and playfully announced himself, I took it in good humor and spirit. I found the message in his humor to state he is an open individual and light hearted.

I was honestly horrified when Caprice responded so rudely to him, in of all places, a welcome thread. I, too, noticed the typism she emplyed--typism that several INTJs I know are very tired of. I attempted to "make light" of her heavy and rude and stinging remark to tooboku. I was concerned he wouldn't return after that post which certainly DID deter him.

Carprice was not the only one to employ typism in this thread, Lindzmarie followed suit.  And then Caprice said she was not one to point out inconsistencies, but she did say she was not one to degrade another human being, especially one she likes.  So, by that, her statements suggest she does not find tooboku to be either human, or "one she likes", thus he is not deserving of pleasantries normall afforded other new members.  Oh, the irony.

The "ganging up" on tooboku, in this welcome thread then ensued and was followed by attacks from Lindzmarie and Nick. The irony in these "attacks" on tooboku in his welcome thread lead,  rather than to apologies and accountability on the part of those attacking tooboku, but he was then further attacked for sticking up for himself even though it was done playfully wherein the "message" could have been heard and the attacks could have ceased.  The "playfulness" of his "pushback" would have allowed those insulting him to have saved face and moved on--but they chose not to, but rather they grew more hostile.

The "mean spirit" that Caprice mentions, is what she (and Nick and lindzmarie) employ against tooboku, but are unwilling to be honest about, let alone apologize for.  
(If you didn't appreciate his humorous OP, then why not leave it? Ignore it? Report it? )  Oh, the irony.

I have also read attack after attack after attack against the INTJs suggesting we (especially me) are mean spirited against the ENFP. I find this absolutely confounding. I went back and re-read my welcome thread. What I read over and over were "kind" remarks and "inviting" remarks that I made regarding the enfps. And for this I am accused of being narcissitic, selfish, and contemptuous regarding the feelings of ENFPs. Oh, the irony. The "untruth". Oh, the irony.

As another INTJ said to me today with great disappointment, "I guess we thought the ENFPs were all as good as Sakari". How wrong we were . . .