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17 Jan 2012 03:59 PM  
To add to that common sense:

Majority of the common sense that sheeple follow their daily lives is based on the rules and laws (lies) that the most powerful in society instituted to make sure that sheeple functions in the most efficient way possible to benefit the powerful. Not sheeple itself. You can continue arguing about mythical value of common sense now. Facts will remain.
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18 Jan 2012 11:36 AM  
None are as blind as those who do not wish to see, none are as deaf as those who do not wish to listen, and none are as ignorant as those who do not wish to learn.
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18 Jan 2012 02:52 PM  
That exactly what common sense is. No seeing, no listening, no learning...just looking at what others do and repeat what others do. If you don't know something, then you don't know it. You either believe the hype, or start seeing, listening and learning to know more about it. You wish to do these things at first, then comes the rest. Common sense is completely against that.
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18 Jan 2012 11:42 PM  

Entejay you have become what you dispise the the most. You are only in a different "flock". Because if you actually saw what I wrote you would have seen that I said that common sense isn't all that common and you saw it as otherwise and interpreted the way you wanted to. So you did not SEE what was written because you didn't want to because you were to blinded by what you believe to be true. Seeing as you qouted Napoleon I think this millitary adage will make make sense to you: Proper Planing and Preparation Prevents Piss Poor Performance. That is common sense! Not the hogwash you came up with.

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19 Jan 2012 01:59 AM  
Wait right there.

You defined common sense as something that most people accept as sound judgment that they agree on, but it is not based on specialized knowledge. 200 years ago it was common sense to burn witches on sticks and it was accepted as common sense. They only seek the agreement of majority. And since most people agree that witches are bad and should be burned, they did burn many women for that. Was it based on specialized knowledge or even facts. It was believed to be true. And was done that way.

Now while I write this, I think I have understand your definition of common sense. You just say that if it doesn't include rocket since and deals only with human relationships, then it is common sense. Even in that case Strips, what makes you think that what you came up with is the best possible out there? You just accept it because it sounds good and happens to be used throughout history, but you still cant come up with proof of any kind that will tell you that this way is the most efficient. It may work today, I agree that it works, but inherently it still includes a dose of unknown. And all I say that this fact should be acknowledged. It shouldn't be accepted as ultimate truth. It's just what the best we know so far. The problem here in this thinking, is that once people accept it as ultimate truth, then they don't have an urge to question everything around them. And that is their downfall. That is where disagreements arise. And this is why ENFPs ask me to be "open" minded about them. Whereas those people are obviously not open minded in the first place. Why should I be open minded to them? It's all about accepting mediocrity. Not mine but theirs. For what? These people are proven to be idiots, why should I respect them? They are useless, not just for people around them, but also to themselves. There is no point is feeling sorry for them. They created their own hell. There is nobody but them to be blamed.
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19 Jan 2012 01:02 PM  

And again Entejay you do not See what is in front of you. I never said common sense leads to success, even the military adage does not guarantee it, it merely ingreases the odds of succsess (If you havent already, read Sun Tsu- The Art of War, then you will see common sense in action). Because when the unexpected occures you have options and you did the proper planning and peraration  then you will be more capable in dealing with it the issue at hand. None of this Que Sera Sera victim attitude. And again I said that COMMON SENSE ISN'T ALL THAT COMMON. What you keep on refering to with "sheeple" and society actions are people following popular culture of the day, caprice referred to it as preconceived notions. Now native knowledge is based on logic, knowledge, experience and wisdom, the critical think that she also referred to. 

Insead of raging against your "sheeple" you might want to try  You will be amazed at what you can acieve. Like the saying goes "Don't argue with a fool. The spectators can't tell the difference."

 

 

 

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19 Jan 2012 03:06 PM  
What does this have anything to do with my topic?
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19 Jan 2012 03:07 PM  
Posted By Stripes on 19 Jan 2012 12:02 PM

 

Insead of raging against your "sheeple" you might want to try  You will be amazed at what you can acieve. Like the saying goes "Don't argue with a fool. The spectators can't tell the difference."

 

 

 

 

How do you expect me to do that?

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19 Jan 2012 11:33 PM  
I was talking about common sense and how it relates to mediocraty and how you preseved the actions of the woman you don't like. You mentioned that you did not recogines common sense. As well as "sheeple", not me mate. So it would seem that alot of your time is spent on them and the wolf in sheeps clothing was merely an attempt on my part to get more out of the effort you put in. It does however seem that this discussion is going around in circles so I will stop here.
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21 Jan 2012 01:47 PM  

We weren't talking about the same thing. What you referred as common sense, was what I referred as what trendy for people. As you have said, common sense isn't that all common. I only partially agree with common sense. I use it as last resort. If I have nothing better to use, I use common sense. But that still means that common sense comes with an unknown. And I acknowledge that some part of it is useful but still keep skeptical approach to common sense. Now, if this even what it seems to be, how does this all relate to this particular woman?

I spend at her alot of time? No mate. I actually have a female friend who asks me something like 100 times more questions than this forum does. And I actually spend more time with her than I do in this forum. Just because you see me here asking this question, it doesn't mean that you know me and what I focus on in this life. Let's not make hasty assumptions.

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22 Jan 2012 01:10 PM  

Entejay, are you on some sort of medication that inhibits your reading and reasoning? I never talked about the woman,the ENFPs did. All I did was try to clarify your position on the issue, because I saw that you and the ENFPs + others were having a breakdown in comunication.I don't know her and I don't care. That is why I said (correct me if I am wrong) which you didn't and used it.So much for trying to help someone.The subsequent discussion was me discussing mediocraty with the others and that led to the common sense discussion. I never dicussed her and your issue, I said it seemed you spent a lot of time on them . I never said you spent a lot of time on her. You put the two together not me. Then you have the audacity of saying I make "hasty assumptions". It seems to me that you make your decisions based on preconceived notions

And like I said the common sense discussion is going around in circle and I will no longer discuss it, because you only see what you want to see and not what is written.

 

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22 Jan 2012 01:48 PM  

I guess it just another language barrier. So much for help from the helper.

 

I understand that you try to point out that if people follow the common sense (in your definition) they would increase their chances. Yes they probably would.

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09 Mar 2012 07:58 AM  
Where is the sequel?
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09 Mar 2012 01:07 PM  

 

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09 Mar 2012 01:09 PM  
No one wants to argue.
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10 Mar 2012 01:31 AM  

Argue: 


1, 2. Argue, debate, discuss  imply using reasons or proofs to support or refute an assertion, proposition, or principle.
 Argue implies presenting one's reasons: The scientists argued for a safertesting procedure;  
it may also imply disputing in an angry orexcited way: His parents argue all the time.  
To discuss  is to present varied opinions and views: to discuss ways and means.  
To debate  is to interchange formal (usually opposing) arguments,especially on public questions: to debate a proposed amendment. 
 
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11 Mar 2012 01:52 PM  
Today I saw an ad for bottled water. It was saying "with fluoride" on it. And they were so proud at putting it on it, as if it was something important. As you know, fluoride is a poison. What kind of idiot would take it as something to be proud of. Then I instantly remembered your last picture Stripes. Is there any difference between your video and what I saw that day?
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11 Mar 2012 09:19 PM  
People look right. When you walk into a door, you're first instinct is to look to the right. Stores use that by putting all the shinies to the right of the entrance....the candy to the right of the checkout....etc. Basic psychology doesn't make people sheep. It makes them predictable.
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12 Mar 2012 12:00 AM  

@Alysaria; Sheeple. "A individual that forfits their right to choose in favor of inclusion in groupthink and what is viewed as popular or elete group. Allowing the influences of different forms of media and group members to hold great sway in the formation of attitudes, behavoir and opinion.
To accept the group mentaility and opinion as fact without examination. Not only to be told what to do, but accepting the paradigm of thought as absolute thereby removing the weight of personal responsibility in the making of decisions".

And the difference between your definition and this one is what exactly?

@Entejay: All I can think the reason is for it is that some prefer ignorance. And as the saying goes, "Ignorance is bliss"

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