I had a funny video to share here as well, but it won't post. 

I don't think you're strange. I'm an ENFP and I've often been told I'm very blunt, and it's often seen as a positive thing. I'll often just say what's on my mind or ask a question and everyone around me laughs in a "oh you!-way" and thinks I'm joking, when it's actually just an honest question. I think we're very invested in emotional truth, so while we're excellent verbalists and capable of great subtlety, I think we'll cut to the root of contradictory or muddled sentiments expressed by others in a way that can seem either shockingly (or refreshingly) blunt to other types. We want other people to be happy but to just flatter them or to robotically agree wouldn't be in line with our internal values engine. I think in the end an ENFP has to do his thing. (or her thing)!

I honestly feel like I"m Ne fi ti Te Si.

Well that'll substitute for one Book, anyway...

caprice, I was just being snarky

I agree with pretty much everything you wrote; definitely true that not everyone who is religious is dogmatic, and not everyone who is dogmatic is religious. I'm also not a fan of dogma. Except the movie, which is entertaining. I don't care much for propaganda either (although the band was ok).

hp, I've not looked into any of the enneagram stuff - trying to figure out MBTI is more than enough for me at the moment.

I can be very analytical and precise. Almost moreso when it is something physical. Like, I love working in my lab. I am meticulous and careful. Everything is labeled, everything is measured precisely. I have 7 lab notebooks now, some full, some for different projects and uses. I write carefully and legibly, and I write down everything. I like working on my bike too; I love pulling it apart and cleaning it and putting it back together and tuning it up perfectly. And I like sewing too - the same sort of precise, careful attention to detail. I don't think its obsessive/compulsive -- it is all very Zen for me. I'm not sure how that fits into my type - I always figured it had something to do with my (really strong) Ne, but I have no idea how anything else (like T or P or S) fits. I just go off into this sort of other drifting state for a while. Its nice.

Boork, you're so rarely snarky, so it's hard to tell...

But @ happy puppy It may be that I'm mistaking various conjunctive functions as Ti. It may also be that definitions are varied and subjective. But I"m rarely methodical or of a flow chart nature. It's more of an instantaneous awareness and, yes, very visual. I really feel that Ti precedes my Te. Which is the way socionics assigns the functions. And I also resonate more with the socionics description. Maybe there are just multiple variations of types. Jung said that there were at least 16, but maybe 360 (as I recall). I do feel confident in the Ne Fi predominant inclination, but I'm less confident of any concrete assignment after that.

My belief is that you have a favored tendency, but have use of all the functions to various degrees. I wouldn't even call them shadows. I think some people can readily shift from type to type depending on the strength of their preferences. But you would still have a preferred type.

I'm an enneagram 4w5 sx/sp/so or sp/sx/so. Not too sure which one. I'm also low energy, intense, neurotic, and moody. I get stuck in my negative/dark emotions and thoughts often. Being a so last, I don't feel at ease or comfortable hanging in groups especially large ones. I always prefer one-on-one. My MBTI & enneagram/variants make me very idiosyncratic. 

It explains the different disposition I have compared to enneagram 7 ENFP's. 

ENFP 4s vs. ENFP 7s

If you run into a less extroverted ENFP, it’s likely that he is a 4 with a 5 wing (4w5), because they are drained from being out in the world and hide inside their own heads. An ENFP who is a 4 with a 3 wing (4w3), on the other hand, is energized by intense experiences, which is just like a 7.

That’s where the confusion with identification begins. 4w3s and 7s may both be very hyper, but there’s more emotional involvement from the 4. And a 4w5 may seem like a healthy 7 when he is able to quickly learn a great deal of knowledge, since a 7 integrates to a 5. When the 4w5 is unhealthy though, he resembles an absent-minded, spontaneous 7. One has to sort through the similarities and get to the differences.

Fours have an “emotional longing” and an intense appreciation for true beauty, and 7s have more of an energized but passing materialistic interest. However, don’t assume that every “deep” ENFP is a 4, because creativity and depth are not reserved for 4s. Sevens are not necessarily shallow; they also are capable of these traits. However, if an ENFP feels very confined and constricted by personality tests in general, it is likely that he is a 4.

In general, each type will carry a distinct energy and sense of humor. When ENFPS fall into dark places, 7s and 4s react quite differently. The 7 may seem nervous, and the 4 may seem self-conscious. While they can both end up feeling empty, for 7s, it’s the lack of direct stimulation, and for 4s, it’s the loss of “feeling intensity”.

^^ Interesting. There are many different subtypes and flavors of ENFP's. It's pretty neat how that manifests in our personalities.

te makes me think in flow charts, but I can hone in on very specific answers to questions in a seemingly precise way, which at first I thought was Ti, but is really more of a weird NeFiTe bump location device. perhaps some of these rambles are of value?

Posted By Nadette on 21 May 2011 07:50 PM

Electriclady: Are you saying that ENFPs can only be 7 or 4? My result was 8. I was surprised at this though. I relate a lot to 8, but I think I'm more 4. I don't know. I'm both? I think I'm a 4 that doesn't want to be a victim and compensates with 8 behavior. Or, maybe I'm really an 8. I was a very bossy child.

Nadette,

Definitely not . Technically, any MBTI can be any of the 9 enneagram types. I believe some MBTI types will be more represented amongst some enneagrams but it's not necessarily the case. ENFP's (according to online sources & enneagram books) are commonly 2's, 4's, 7's, & 9's. Enneagram 6 is represented amongst all types. There are ENFP 8's out there. What is your underlying motivation? What is your wing if you don't mind me asking?