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13 Feb 2010 04:35 PM  

I am experiencing extreme mood swings - sometimes i am hyper happy, then i am extremely bored, very exited, sad, etc. Is this normal for an ENFP? What can i do about it? The problem is, i normally cannot pinpoint from where it comes. They just come and go and seem to have no specific cause. Sometimes i go from angry to happy to depressed in 1 hour or so.

I mean i like experiencing emotions - but what's too much is too much. And generally i would also like to be happy, not have a 'depressive mood' or be angry.

This whole mood swing problem is going like this for years. I learned to somehow cope with it, for example by leaving the party early when a depressive mood appears (Don't want to be seen as Mr. Depressive and don't want others to feel depressive too, as emotions are contagious). Then when i am at home, i use thinghs like meditation, or talk to people i trust to make it easier. That does not mean it will not be a rough night, tough. The anger i have under control somehow... but the problem is i always seem to hurt the people i like the most most. Which of course hurts me too. I used to think that everything i touch gets hurt in some way and that therefore i should avoid socializing at all.

The latest anger outburst (which was not that intense) was when one of my friends told me i was 'kind of aggressive again'. Said in an aggressive tone, of course. This of course made me aggressive, because he clearly critized my feelings (i admit, i was a bit aggressive). Hell, i KNOW he does not mean it in a mean way and still likes me, but i just cannot control it. (He would not shut up of course, at the end he said 'yeah, of course, we talked you into it...', which made me even more angrier as it was a false accusation) I did not hurt them in any way, but i had a kind of small outburst - i was really angry and being angry just makes me sick - and makes me seem really immature. Also i know people who did not want to see me again after experiencing such an outburst.

I am irrational and always do stupid thinghs. I am not sure if i should go into details - i did thinghs that NOBODY would be proud of because i was in an extreme 'entertainer'-mood or just wanted to be the center of attention. I think i have turned a lot of people against me over the years because of doing stupid thinghs, anger outbursts, and depressive moods. I can understand it if they don't want to have to do anything with me - i can also be a complete asshole if in a bad mood.

I hope i am not rambling you to death. Nobody wants to hear depressive thoughts.

So... what can i do about it?

Btw, the tips on this site really helped me so far.

I am going to sleep now, good night... (half past 11 here at my place)

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13 Feb 2010 05:38 PM  

I am not sure if i should go into details
Go for it!

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14 Feb 2010 01:40 PM  
Sounds to me like there's a deeper issue you haven't confronted.

I'm going to tell you a personal story just to kind of give you an example.... >.> When I was about 6, an older boy played "house" with me....and I never told anyone until I was 21. I repressed it and it effected my emotions and the way I related to people for years because I never confronted it. I was afraid of males. I would suddenly feel angry or cry for no apparent reason....and I sometimes felt like I had to exert more energy and excitement, as if I had to put on a performance and had no other choice but to make a fool of myself. Anyway, when I was 21 there was a daytime talkshow where they were talking about abuse....and my sister-in-law made some comment about why you wouldn't want to tell someone. I said that it's hard, you do kind of feel embarrassed, and it's gets harder to say anything. Then I added I knew from personal experience and told her. She encouraged me to tell my mother. It helped me deal with my issues, and a few good relationships helped me have better self-esteem and appreciation for real connections. I value the friends that I have more because I connect on a closer level now without that big wall of self-disgust and fear there. ^_^

-hug- You may need some professional assistance just to help you figure it out - therapists are trained to help, and there's nothing wrong with needing help. It could be something deeply repressed.
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14 Feb 2010 06:01 PM  

People who mess with small children are evil. Being a kid is difficult enough!

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14 Feb 2010 10:43 PM  
agreed.
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15 Feb 2010 12:04 AM  
Well, as you get older you'll become less emotional.

Knowing is half the battle. Once you know you have these outbursts you will take steps to correct them.

Being emotional is OK and makes your life worth living. Now take steps so that it doesn't effect your life negatively. Ya know what, I'm going to start that thread.
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15 Feb 2010 07:00 AM  
Hi TheJan.
I'm not sure what life is like for an "F", or what's normal for an ENFP-type such as yourself, but going beyond type for a moment I would recommend being brave and explaining your symptoms to a medical and/or psychological professional for proper investigation. If these moods swings are hurting you, hurting others, degrading your quality of life, it all feels beyond your control and you can't pinpoint anything in your life that's triggering each mood swing, these are strong signs that you should seek external help. You've developed some ways to cope (leaving early if you feel depressed, removing yourself from social situations) but restricting your social activities is a tough way to live too!

Our brains are a delicate balance of chemicals; sometimes too much of one or not enough of another can completely change our behaviour, including swinging from hyper-happy to extremely sad. These things happy to a lot of people and aren't our fault either, so don't be too hard on yourself. But you need to find the cause to fix things properly in the long-term.
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16 Feb 2010 04:41 AM  

Thank you everyone for your support. You made great sense to me, alysaria in particular. But everyone of you, thank you.

I think there are two or three thinghs that keep at the back of my mind... the one thing was, my mother and father always argued with each other. Since i can think every weekend it got loud. And they never ever spoke about it after it, they just bottled it inside them. Father in particular. One just cannot talk to him about it.
It wasn't sooo bad, because we three (my two elder sisters and me, one of them is an INFP i think) always comforted each other, distracted each other, etc.. When my eldest sister moved out, it went a bit harder. One time it was so bad that we went by train to Nicole, our eldest sister.
Then my second oldest sister moved out, and one time when she came here and they had an argument, she said like: "Oh now i know why i was feeling so well the past few weeks...", as this was the second day when she was here (she's the supposed INFP)

Now they argue less, but my father drinks. Not that often, but when he does, it usually ends in an argument because he let's out all his anger and he has a tantrum and destroys everything in the vicinity. I just don't know what to do. I kept that bottled up in me too, didn't want to talk about it. I talked to my sister and i felt better afterards.

In the past time i have felt guilty that i was somehow the cause for their arguments. I talked to them about it, and they both said that it's not my fault repetious times. Now i don't fel guilty anymore, but i still feel bad when they argue. Also, my father is often so drunk that you just cannot talk to him normally.

I know one time when i came home, he was drunk, lying beneath the kitchen table, and i told him to get up and move into his bed, otherwise there will be stress again. I can also feel when he has drunken a bit. He is good at hiding it, but i can tell. I don't tell though, i think it will make things worse. I am not so sure anymore if this is a good idea. Maybe i should confront him about it. Or point it out to take off the tension that's building on the kitchen table when we eat (He often cooks, i can tell both in his demeanor and in the taste of the food if he did drink). So that it does not explode afterwards.
Sometimes I don't even know if he even likes me or takes me serious. When i made my drivers license, i asked him if i could have the car. He said he wanted me to drive a few times with him so i can get used to the car. Ok no problem, that makes sense. But he doesn't drive with me, never has time, never wants to. (Never gets thinghs done because he never starts them, i at least start them) Then when a half year passed and he still didn't drive with me, i got angry and had an outburst telling him that i need the driving experience or i could as well flush the driving license with the toilet. So what did he do? He laughed at me. He called me stupid, said "You don't forget how to drive car". Yeah maybe when you are 50 years old and drive since 30 years, you don't forget it. But i was 19, and had only driven in driving school. But all he did was laugh at me. I think he has understood now, that it is important to me (it cost alot of money). He wants to make up for it, and sometimes asks: "Do you want to drive?" or sometimes says: "I'd let you drive, but we are in a hurry today" I don't think he's a bad person (in the sense that he tries his best to be a good father), we are just very different.
When i became 18 i liked to have a hi-fi-system as a birthday present. I got it. He bought himself a new one and i got his old. Ouch. While he thought i appreciated it. I actually did, i just realized he had bought himself a new one while i got his old a few months later.
But like i said, i think he's not a bad person, we are just very different.

I  feel... peace in myself now that i have let it out.

Thanks again for your support. I really appreciate it. I consider going to a medical / therapist, if it gets worse. Oh and sbalbom, i have looked at the topic you created, i noticed those thinghs help me too. Sometimes in an argument it helps to get 'fresh air'. Talking to a friend (or people you trust) is very good advice too. Also, i noticed what you said is true(about getting less emotional). As we get older, we get 'wiser' (Whatever that means )


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16 Feb 2010 11:26 AM  
-hug- It's nice being an ENFP. ^_^ Talking out things is really all we need to get the bulk of our troubles dismissed.

It sounds like your father has some major issues he's afraid to deal with and you're just caught in the crossfire. Sometimes people who don't deal with their own problems get so filled up with negativity that it poisons them and spreads to their relationships. I'd imagine he's let it go for so long he's terrified of actually examining himself and finding that he doesn't like what he sees....so he brushes it off, ignoring the problems and drinking them away. Unfortunately that doesn't work, and someday he has to deal with whatever it is or it will destroy him. As an ENFP, you're wired to see the best in people - I mean yea, he's your dad and you love him regardless, but I think that you can also see the good person buried in all of that crap and the wasted potential.....and you desperately want to save him from himself. It makes me wonder if the way he behaves toward you is a reflection of that....if subconsciously he's given up on himself and wants you to as well. I don't really know for sure, that's just my first impression.
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Posted By alysaria on 14 Feb 2010 12:40 PM
Sounds to me like there's a deeper issue you haven't confronted.

I'm going to tell you a personal story just to kind of give you an example.... >.> When I was about 6, an older boy played "house" with me....and I never told anyone until I was 21. I repressed it and it effected my emotions and the way I related to people for years because I never confronted it. I was afraid of males. I would suddenly feel angry or cry for no apparent reason....and I sometimes felt like I had to exert more energy and excitement, as if I had to put on a performance and had no other choice but to make a fool of myself. Anyway, when I was 21 there was a daytime talkshow where they were talking about abuse....and my sister-in-law made some comment about why you wouldn't want to tell someone. I said that it's hard, you do kind of feel embarrassed, and it's gets harder to say anything. Then I added I knew from personal experience and told her. She encouraged me to tell my mother. It helped me deal with my issues, and a few good relationships helped me have better self-esteem and appreciation for real connections. I value the friends that I have more because I connect on a closer level now without that big wall of self-disgust and fear there. ^_^

-hug- You may need some professional assistance just to help you figure it out - therapists are trained to help, and there's nothing wrong with needing help. It could be something deeply repressed.



 

*hug* so brave of you to share that.

I am sure I repressed something from childhood but I cant remember. i tried... but cant.

anyway.. OP.. I have HUGE mood swings... I wasnt aware of them until I saw photos from some birthday where I am in 5 minutes from extremely happy to moody and looking aside hahaha... they are caused by "nothing"... or hypersensitivity...

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24 Aug 2010 04:35 AM  
I was at the doctor today (our house doctor, i hope you know what i mean) and told her of a lot of my problems - like anger at myself, frustration, no energy, no orientation etc. I am feeling better already. She implied i have something like a depression - thinghs like anger, alcoholconsum or computer games addiction can be some ways of the mind trying to fix the problem.

She also said that maybe it is some kind of afterproblem from puberty - when one normally orients themselves, i was in some kind of defense position - for example my sister was very ill (could have died).

I am going there again on Thursday. I have some kind of "task" to complete... (she meant we should try to work with my fantasy) she said i should try to paint our family as 5 trees or 5 animals - from the gut, not too much thinking involved. (hope this works out). And list 5 thinghs i like on myself.

I hope i get better. I have a good feeling about this.

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24 Aug 2010 11:21 AM  
sbalbom, I'm new here, and I'd love to read the thread you started (mentioned above). What's it called? Thanks
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26 Aug 2010 01:54 PM  
Ok. Was there. I got a medication recipe for an antidepressant (Hope that is the right word)... am going to get it tomorrow. We are making blood tests tomorrow... Plus i got a list of psychologists in the near... I think it was the right decision. Wasn't at all easy to go there. She didn't quite know if i should go into group or solo therapy. So i am going to get to the psychological institute or the 'psycholigical advise station' (word-for-word translation) at the university for students (likely) to get further advise to where is should go to.

Good night. Will keep you posted. I just feel i owe this to you.

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26 Aug 2010 01:55 PM  
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28 Aug 2010 05:32 AM  
Second day on antidepressants. "Depressive Breakdown" today. The breakdown ended with a realization....

Problem was i din't know anymore which feelings were "real" and which not. Problem is solved. They are all just as real. The famous question "what will happen if i...?" has been plagueing me and i didn't know if anxiousness (As in "bad thinghs will happen") or hope (as in "it will be well") was more "real" and which one of those was the one i should listen more to. It is now simple: when faced with two opposing emotions, one negative and one positive (like 'anxiousness' and 'hope'), i will choose the positive, since both are probably right. Since it makes me sick to accept the negative one as truth and discard the positive, i can know the dangers but hope for the best. At least i hope so. *tries to poke fun - with a stick*
Then i generally feel better since i don't think the "evil thoughts" anymore. *tries to poke more fun - stick broke, fumbles. Roll on repairing stick: DEX,INT,CHA: roll sucessful. Fun stick repaired. Poke. 1d6 fun inflicted.*

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10 Sep 2010 01:22 AM  
Hey! I'd like to give you a feedback on how it is going.

As you can see on the smiley. It's going well. My rabid mood swings have ceased. When there is a problem, i don't obsess over it - i can look at it objectively and find a solution - or question my view on the problem (is it really a problem?).

I've become more active and more social again. I generally feel good around people. Started doing sports again - at the moment just workout, but i'd like to take up some team sport or just Ju-Jutsu at the university sport center again when the semester starts again - more people, more fun. Stopped drinking alcohol. The antidepressant - it's name is Paroxetin, it is a SSRI, like Prozac (i think you know this one, it is said to be known in the 'english world') - can have some side effects when drinking alcohol, and i don't want them. Also, no adventures on the tavern floor anymore.

Band is going great. We got a new gig in January in a bar. Want to overhaul our setlist and learn lot of new, rocking songs. Yay! That's going to be fun! (AND we are getting a poster^^)

Oh and i changed my study subject from computer science to computer science + english language+literature. New people to meet, a new and interesting study subject... What more can i want.

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