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| 22 Oct 2010 05:29 PM |
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Well, its not one i care to have again in a virtual setting. Maybe in a real world the connection would have been easier, but in a virtual world when you only have words etc...misunderstanding and communication can become difficult, probably with every type..even more so with our type i believe . |
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Rogarn
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| 22 Oct 2010 05:32 PM |
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I fail to see how love languages could possibly have any impact on a non romantic relationship. |
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bella
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| 22 Oct 2010 05:50 PM |
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I totally agree with you. It would be impossible. Although we weren't having a romantic relationship...so the failure of the connection had nothing to do with love languages. We couldn't even hold on to a friendship. I won't go into details, but i know with certainly how and why it had to end  ...its done and over, i want to put it to rest  |
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Rogarn
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| 22 Oct 2010 06:17 PM |
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Very well then. At least you have finally put it behind you. |
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JustinRWatson
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| 23 Oct 2010 08:07 AM |
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Posted By Rogarn on 22 Oct 2010 04:32 PM
I fail to see how love languages could possibly have any impact on a non romantic relationship.
On the contrary. Love languages are the ways in which we communicate these feelings.. I believe that love is communicated in many different forms and there are is a massive spectrum of different ways we communicate these feelings towards those we feel close (or in some ways not close) to.. 
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Rogarn
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| 23 Oct 2010 08:51 AM |
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Assuming that this is so, there is still no indication that having the same love languages would do anything outside of slightly easing communications. Things still rely on the difference of personalities that are communicating, most especially assuming that each person of the same personality is very distinctly their own individual. |
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| 25 Oct 2010 02:12 PM |
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how does one with a personality of ESFP change to ENFP overtime |
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bella
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| 25 Oct 2010 02:29 PM |
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@ Regarn. If your love language was physical, it would be impossible for you to communicate that with me in a virtual setting. Just this alone would make the connection much different then in a real setting. Probably less words would be exchanged if we could reach out on a physical level. Those with high physical being their highest form of love language, would need that personal touch in times of difficulties.
Kayvern: I'm not sure if one personality can change personalities....it's a way of thinking, genuine and spontaneous. I suppose one could try and behave more like another, although the true side of your personality would always come through. |
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Rogarn
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| 25 Oct 2010 04:04 PM |
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I agree bella. That's why i question my ability to have any kind of long distance relationship. Im not sure how i could possibly make it work. I miss what i need the most. |
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| 25 Oct 2010 06:16 PM |
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Well damn it. I'm neither ENFP or ESFP. I'm like ELFP or whatever. |
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bella
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| 25 Oct 2010 07:08 PM |
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@...its difficult enough trying to have a successful partnership being personally connected, but long distance....sure it can work i suppose, although i think with the ENFP vs INTJ paring, it should be in a real é close setting. |
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Rogarn
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| 25 Oct 2010 07:29 PM |
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I think I have to agree with you. Although online dating works for many, it does not work for me. Long distance means there is no closeness. Failure, from the beginning. |
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| 25 Oct 2010 07:59 PM |
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third time posting to this...postings are all messed up tonight..GRrr. |
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Rogarn
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| 25 Oct 2010 08:02 PM |
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You should have seen how many times i tried to post my little "1000 posts" thread.. -.- |
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| 28 Jul 2011 04:12 PM |
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Thank you.
I am new here and actually english is not my mother tongue so maybe it's going to be a little hard for me to explain this and please forgive me if i have any grammar mistakes... I can' t tell yet if i'm an esfp or enfp, i think i am very introspective and i don't like shallow people as i've read most of you guys N people dont like either.
After reading all this posts about esfps and how annoying they are i wish now im not an enfp myself, but rather an esfp. All i hear is close mindness and discrimination from your part. Actually it's seems like intj especially feel threaten by Esfps. It's funny beacuse my boyfriend is an intj as well . He is an increadibly smart person but i cant say that is a good thing since he loves bragging about it like most of the intj posts prove it, exuding arrogance all the time as if it would give him some sort of "status" and for me thats much more annoying than a loud person. I try not to pay much attention to that behaviour since his really proud of himself but i find a hard time dealing with his criticism towards anyone who doesnt seem to fit in his squared mind. He confessed he thought i was a "WO -HOOO girl" because of the expressions i use and the kind of friends i have who like to party, i love fashion and clothes and i use it as a way to express myself but he changed his mind after getting to know me since i do have my own points of view and i enjoy reading too ( he thinks that is awesome... bahhh)
Anyways, this N circle is a really close one, also they think N are at the top and the rest are just "regular people". In the other hand, s people dont care that much about n people themselves. For me that is a healthier way of living. I can tell now who are N's since they tend to make fun of s types. I find N types them a little bit unrealistic, if only they could spend more time doing things instead of just longing for a better world would make me want to reconsider if i am an enfp .Probably thats why there are more s people in the world, because that is what you need in order to make ( not think... MAKE) a change in the world.
I hope this doesnt offend anyone, because i do think everyone has its function in a system and everyone plays a part in the whole puzzle |
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| 29 Jul 2011 12:53 AM |
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ESFPs usually find INTJs annoying to. They don't usually bother with why, just spout fallacious and myopic sentiments in place of facts. Close-minded discrimination characterizes most experience with them. That's what you're apparently complaining about.
Why wouldn't a minority find the intrusive, tyrannical, irrational, small-minded majority threatening? Most of the innovation in the world came from Ns. Most Ss get in the way for decades if not centuries before implementation is possible. Those that don't, much less those that help, certainly aren't "regular people". |
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| 29 Jul 2011 04:16 PM |
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As an ENFP, I actually find it hard to relate to ESFPs. One of my best friends is an ESFP. He automatically assumes that I SHOULD have the same ideas and preferrences about something as he does. When I don't and I voice it, he gets all butt-hurt and refuses listen to my reasoning... I am automatically wrong. Closed-minded is a good description of ESFP. |
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| 15 Mar 2012 12:41 AM |
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hi there. esfp here. i've realized it's been a while since someone posted so i thought i'd come on here and clarify some things. i've read a lot of stereotypes such as "esfp aren't interested in getting to *KNOW* people" and "they just want to know about the surface stuff" and "they're not interested in philosophy and people except the social aspect." i don't know what kind of esfps you all know but all the ones i know are not like that. i am extremely interested in philosophy and politics and sciences, sports, bascially anything. i love to learn about new things and i like to know about theories. the only reason i can't talk about them with some people is because they don't know as much as i do in certain aspects. which is understandable. not everyone is going to have the same interests. i am not shallow. and i find it ironic that everyone here thinks that esfps are since you obviously haven't spent enough time with one. and for being so compassionate and deep enfps, you do sound shallow to me. i don't speak on behalf of all of the esfps in the world but i will say, for being enfps you sure do judge a lot.
also, 3 of my closest friends are tested enfps and though i would never give them up, they are the skankiest partiers i've ever met in my life and have no moral compass what so ever. and they will all agree.
and to answer how to tell an ENFP to an ESFP apart, give them an orange. the ENFP will tell a story or bring up an idea related to the orange. the ESFP will just describe it's sensual properties. |
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| 15 Mar 2012 08:07 AM |
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Thank you for the clarification, Estelle. Your input is greatly appreciated. Everyone is going to be a little biased for their own type, because that is who they are. I think that is where type stereotypes and errors can come into play, whether it is between ESFPs for ENFPs or INFJs and ISFJs. Therefore, any and all opposing viewpoints are highly valuable, so thank you for sharing, and welcome! |
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| 15 Mar 2012 08:40 AM |
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The most bias against ESFPs is in the internet. I think this is because generally ESFPs don't hang out much in internet forums like this one... if there were more ESFPs around here, there would be more communication, and hence, more understanding in the Internet. Most of the time, an ESFP comes in, writes one post, then never comes again.
I wonder how we can make our forum more attractive to ESFPs? |
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